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Thorry84@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Makes a lot of sense if you understand that the police exist to support white supremacy and maga is a white supremacist organization.

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  • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    YUP. The vast majority of our law enforcement system derives from slave patrols.

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• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  imagine the bloodbath that would have occurred if the crowds had been black / latino etc. or fuck, even college kids…

  somehow only one of them got shot… SOMEHOW.

  you know that’s a funny word when you look at it - some… how?

  like some, a quantity… how, a state or condition… doing a heavy lift that.

  it just doesn’t seem to encompass the obvious and outright institutionalized racism displayed that day. angry white people smeared shit inside the capitol and only a single one was shot, and that was it.

  oh 4 years later we’re finally getting around to sentencing some of the shit-smear crowd. they should have been rounded up that evening and lived the rest of their lives breaking rocks in leavenworth federal pen on whatever hard labor the government could devise.

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  • Neon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Or you know

    Could it be that the most prestigious police job, where only the best of the best are taken, protecting the most important people in the country, working for the government who has enough money to spend on their training, actually has well-trained and well-controlled policemen?

    Could it be that an institution that is notorious for how incredibly federalized (federalized = decentralized != with the federal government) it is doesn’t have the same quality everywhere?

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      they literally barricaded and fell back as far as they could.

      watch the footage, so many times, cops put their hands on their sidearms, then fall back.

      compare that to footage of occupy, of the atlanta cop city protests, any violent reactions on campuses etc., - is there a qualitative difference in them? maybe? but not enough to explain the disparity in violent, over-reaction.

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  • BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I used to think the same thing. How did only one person get shot? Why didn’t they shoot a few people outside of the Capitol and end the whole thing? As soon as a few people would have been shot, the vast majority of those insurrectionists would have ran, right? It’s basically what happened with Babbitt.

    After watching a few documentaries, I think there were two reasons. One, the whole thing wasn’t a fluke. It didn’t happen by accident. People didn’t just get riled up. That whole thing was a legit planned and executed attempt by POTUS et al. to conduct a true insurrection while making it seem grassroots. The whole point was to let the crowd get as far as possible to intimidate the certification into caving to Trump. Because of this, they were ordered to not engage with lethal means. Two, they didn’t have the manpower because they were purposely handicapped. Had they opened fire, the wackos with legit firepower in the crowd would have fired back. This thing was a lot more violent than the news reported. There were situations in which officers went in knowing they might die. And in the moment, you don’t have the benefit of hindsight. This could have been a lot worse. The restraint they used was impressive. Now, I’m impressed with how well the Capitol Police handled that insurrection. I think there were officers there that day that history will hold as heroes.

    Anyway, yeah, part of why it was so “compassionate” from the police was that the insurrectionists were White. But, they were ordered not to open fire by the same people that would benefit from the insurrection. And, they were handicapped and could have been overran had they opened fire. The fact that the police still prevented the insurrection is a testament to their professionalism and patriotism.

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• Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The coup failed though so they clearly did something right with minimal loss of life

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  • phdepressed@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But hasn’t been prosecuted nearly severely enough. Max sentence I’ve seen is 4y with most of these traitors getting off with months instead.

    It was an attempted coup. Sure it failed but the first Nazi coup also failed and they were let off easy then tried again successfully.

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    • hate2bme@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      One dude got 22 years I know for a fact.

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    • MewtwoLikesMemes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      the first Nazi coup also failed

      You’re talking about the Beer Hall Putsch, right?

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