They’re easy to hate - They’re weird, eat funny foods, care about things nobody else does (who care about chickens) and my god is there a subset of them that are the most truly obnoxious human beings (a statement that is, conveniently, true of every single group of humans). They’re basically furries for the non-internet crowd, nobody ever interacts with them to know it, so they get defined by the strawmen people create of them.
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alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
I see a lot more vegan hate than vegans.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 11 months ago
The cause has been tainted by the extremists, to the point where even some vegans are being pushed away from the movement.
Of course, the ones that are on a niche media platform, in a community dedicated to veganism, are likely to be the nutter ones.
Monstrosity@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Yikes. You know, vegans are targeted by the extremely wealthy & powerful meat & dairy industries who spend untold fortunes making the vegan lifestyle look as unappealing and “crazy” as possible?
I mean, I’m sure you’re galaxy brain is impervious to propaganda and everything, I’m just saying, you’re painting with an awfully broad brush.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 11 months ago
That’s getting a bit tinfoil hat, don’t you think?
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I think the cause has been tainted by the rampant propagandizing and demonization across all forms of media that the movement has been subjected to. You’re doing it now, even - what the hell even is an “extremist vegan”?
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Extreme vegans are the people who stand outside restaurants, grocery stores, butcher shops, etc. and yell at people just trying to go about their lives calling them carnists, corpose munchers, blood mouths, animal torturers, and talk about murdering animals (murder is the killing of one human by another) or eating cadavers (a cadaver is a dead human body.) They don’t simply go about their lives living their best vegan life but harass and harangue people. They do the same thing online.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You should read the post the vegan@lemmy.world mods made in response to the admin actions. Phrases like “carnist Lemmy admin”, as if that’s the reason they didn’t like the idea of starving a cat.
There was also a comment saying Vegan should be a protected belief, like other religions.
It’s not a conspiracy by the meat and dairy industry.
AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 11 months ago
who cares about chickens
Most people. Anyone who isn’t a psychopath cares to some extent about animals, vegan or non-vegan
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
I think it’s funny how quickly any anti-vegan talk turns into “I actually think it’s ok to torture animals”
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Can you find me a sample of someone saying, “I actually thing it’s ok to torture animals”? I’d be intersted to see that if it’s actually happening. Or, are you creating a straw man?
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I hate chickens. They’re loud, obnoxious, and they kill and eat each other. That doesn’t mean that I’m going to abuse them. I take good care of my chickens despite the fact that they’re assholes.
queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
They’re loud, obnoxious, and they kill and eat each other.
They’re just like us! 😌
queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
I had a pet chicken in elementary school. She was a sweetheart.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 months ago
The community of non-vegans is a lot bigger than that of the vegans. So vegans do something that gets a reaction, you are much more likely to hear that reaction than the original thing.
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No one hates vegans. Almost everyone hates vegan extremists.
WarlockLawyer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No one hates vegans, but everyone loves to post vegan hate or idiotic “bacon” posts.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
Of all the meats to be obsessed about, redditbros went and picked one of the least appealing ones and decided to make it their entire personality 💀
polarbearulove@lemmy.world 11 months ago
For real. I’ve been vegetarian for a few years now and of all the things I kind of miss, not once has bacon been even a slight craving. A good kebab on the other hand…
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The vast majority of people love bacon and bacon memes and jokes are part of the mainstream culture. Do you accommodate non-vegans? Why do you expect them to accommodate you?
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
That’s because they don’t consider non-veganism a morally acceptable option. Pick any action that you would personally find morally repugnant and ask yourself if you should accommodate people who do that action.
Beaver@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Vegans have no obligation to serve you flesh or secretions.
HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I wish that was true (and I’m not even vegan) but there are many outspoken anti-vegans. But then again they’re the types who will always find an out group to denigrate (in before someone oh-so-cleverly points out I’m doing the same to them).
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I think that you will find that these anti-vegans are reacting to the behaviour of the extremist.
HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t disagree, but then they’ll apply their hatred to the whole (or at least majority) of the group
Beaver@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Nah, as a vegan most people act pretty hateful towards us even when we don’t bring up the topic.
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Most people only ever hear anything from the extremists so you get painted with the same brush. I have friends who are vegans who are amazing people. I go out of my way to accommodate them. You are getting hate because of a very small group of fanatics who believe that they are absolutely morally superior and that that absolute moral superiority justified doing and saying anything to anyone who doesn’t agree with them in an attempt to shame, harass, and intimidate them into doing what they are told.