Comment on Civilization 7 dev on Ages system and series shakeup: "It's going to be the hardest thing for fans to get adjusted to"

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• pycorax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Reddit and lemmy like to say that but I doubt any noticeable portion of the player base is going to bother. Has been for almost every game with denuvo lol

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  • Taalen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sadly your average person just doesn’t care about consumer rights, in any matter.

    I learned my lesson about malicious DRM when Starforce broke my new computer’s DVD drive back in the day. Fortunately it was still under warranty so I had it fixed, but sucked all the same.

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    • CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t like denuvo but for me it’s the price that’s the deal-breaker. Nearly $170CAD for the full version is absolutely bonkers, and I simply can’t justify it. So I guess I’m picking it up in a Steam sale in 2028 or something when it’s $40 with all the DLC.

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      • YoorWeb@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        In 2028 expect to see an ad every time you click “next turn”.

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      • Gobbel2000@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Why not go with the base version then?

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• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Out of the loop. What’s Denuvo?

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  • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Anti piracy software that slows down your game

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    • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The “slows down your game” bit has always been hotly contested. There are certainly occasions where a modified exe without Denuvo runs faster, combined with accusations that that specific game integrated Denuvo in a very poor last-minute implementation that calls it dozens of times a second.

      I don’t work on video games, but my own experience with software engineering and release management suggests those sorts of murky answers are likely to be the norm.

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      • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Cracked games with Denuvo removed run significantly faster.

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      • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There’s nothing contested about it. Add a bunch of extra operations to the game loop and you can slow down a game. You only have so much headroom in each frame. Dunova takes up a lot of that time. And let’s not forget you can literally so tests with games that had denovu and then removed it. The testing shows pretty clearly that it does indeed slow down games.

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Would buying the game and playing it legally still slow down the game?

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      • teuto@lemmy.teuto.icu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes, cracked Denuvo games actually run better because you aren’t running a virus anti piracy software in the background. It runs at the kernel level and Crowdstrike is a pretty good case study on why that’s bad.

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      • skaffi@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes, that’s the issue.

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