Friend, you are not forced to abandon tp when using a bidet.
Too much work to implement? Yes, tell us more about how hard something is that, by your own admission, you don’t understand lmao
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KrisND@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I really just don’t like the idea of it, feels like a very uncomfortable situation for me. But I’m pretty uneducated on the topic.
- It’d have to be warm water
- Wouldn’t it be messer, spraying it all over?
- Don’t you still have to wipe, ya know cause your wet now.
- Too much work to implement when the TP has been successful (No problem to solve)
Fades@lemmy.world 10 months ago
KrisND@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yes, tell us more about how hard something is that, by your own admission, you don’t understand lmao
Point being that it requires time and money to implement, and stated as uneducated concerns in hopes of more information.
“No problem to solve” you realize you’re just smearing shit across your asshole with paper. No problem to solve eh?
Again, point being its been a trusted method for a very long time.
But no, the water makes it messier, not smearing literal shit over yourself, that’s definitely cleaner, yep
As stated, uneducated and I’m sure most could see spraying shit all over the place could be a concern if you’ve never used one before.
Your response was completely unhelpful.
habl@feddit.nl 10 months ago
Imagine poo being on any other part of you body where you except a piece of paper is enough to get rid of it.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Okay, I see you. I’m part of the bidet users, so I’ll weigh in.
Warm water bidets exist, they’re a bit more of a hassle to install, but they exist, and I promise you that it doesn’t really matter. I have a basic cold water bidet, and it’s not as weird as you would think, and I thought I would want the warm water bidet like you, but after a few uses, I didn’t care at all. I’m not here to convince you between warm/cold water, if you want it, that’s totally fine.
It’s definitely not messier. Initially sure, it’s probably a complete mess, but you’re not just doing a quick/short spray. After a few seconds, everything is running clean. The water is clean and so are you.
Wiping is still a thing. I’ve heard some fancy bidets have air dryers to finish the job, it’s not what I have/use, so I dry myself with TP. Unless you spend a fortune, you will too. I’ll say that it takes significantly less tp on average to dry myself off from the bidet than it does to clean myself with TP alone. So my TP use is significantly reduced. Saving money on TP by smartly using a little water, is a good trade IMO.
I wouldn’t say TP is “successful”. I would say it’s adequate at best. In a pinch it does enough to keep the smell and filth to a minimum. By no means is the bidet perfect, certainly there are improvements that can be made, but it’s better. To put this in perspective, when you next tear a sheet of TP and get some of it on your hand, try wiping it off with TP and see if you feel like your hand is clean. I’d put money on the fact that it won’t feel clean until you properly wash it. That’s what you’re doing with your asshole. You wipe it down with paper and then go about your day. It’s “clean”… As in, not caked in shit, but it’s still not really clean. There’s still bacteria and other gross ass shit (pun absolutely intended) on your anus.
Additional to that, your butthole is a sensitive membrane on your body that you’re cleaning with coarse paper all the time. Bidets have been shown to help with various anus related issues like hemorrhoids. Do you want hemorrhoids? If so, keep scraping that sandpaper over your butthole and I’m sure you’ll get there some day.
To the point of it being “too much work”: my partner and I picked up a luxe bidet neo (I think it’s the 120). Super cheap, no frills model. We didn’t want to invest because, like you, we weren’t sure if we were going to like it/use it. We do, all the time. We’re planning on renovating and adding a new bathroom and the new bathroom is getting a bidet when it goes in. Something very nice. Without question. But the luxe model we have was less than $100, and attached to the existing water hookups. It came with everything we needed (we had to also fix a slow leak on the main inlet to the toilet, so we replaced most of the lines in the process, but if our lines had been good, we would have only needed the extra hardware that came with the bidet, in the box). To that end, it’s only a matter of picking one up for less than $100 and taking 15 minutes to install using the directions. No plumber needed, no special tools required (maybe just some wrenches… The bidet comes with some plastic wrenches that are Ikea quality, so having an adjustable/worm-gear wrench is helpful).
So if you have less than $100 sitting around doing nothing, and you can spare 15 minutes… You can have a bidet. So I respectively disagree that it’s “too much work to implement”.
I’ll leave you with this statement: don’t knock it until you try it. It’s changed our lives for the better.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
No you wash your ass in the shower? Does that make it dirtier? How you think washing with water is going to be dirtier than smearing with paper is mind boggling. Do you just wipe your hands with paper towels when you’re done wiping or do you wash them in a sink with water?
KrisND@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I was referring to spraying shit everywhere. As stated uneducated on the topic but its a valid concern. 😂
GladiusB@lemmy.world 10 months ago
They have warmers, both water and seat.
No, your butt and legs cover it.
No, that’s what it awesome if you get a good one it cleans all the bits.
I switched with COVID cause y’all are out of pocket with the TP. Never looked back. I think have bought one pack of TP since.
KrisND@lemmy.world 10 months ago
One pack of TP since!? That’s incredible! Thank you for your reply, I have decided to give it a try to see how it goes. Just never really explored the idea before.
GladiusB@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m a fan. It’s a bit off putting at first. But it’s just like taking a shower. What’s the difference?
TheWonderfool@lemmy.world 10 months ago
As an avid bidet user I feel compelled to answer your points
- it is always warm water (unless you are a masochist, no judgement)
- it points directly to where it needs to go so it stays confined within its domain
- you have to wipe both before and after (before to wipe away most of it, after to dry it)
- it is not a replacement of tp, it is complementary. You need both to achieve full cleaning
All in all I would not live without it anymore, after trying it and reaching enlightenment. 5/5 stars.
KrisND@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Thank you for your reply. I hadn’t really explored the idea of using one before coming across this post. I figured it would be in some way complementary but based on other comments it wasn’t really clear. I’ve decided to give a cheaper one on Amazon a try another person recommended.
motor_spirit@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s not just a blind firehose pointed at your ass. There is accuracy with them, good pressure, so you are cleaning more effectively, and the water is ideally contained in the toilet and to your ass crack for the most part, which you’re already wanting to clean anyway.
As somebody quite hairy, it helps me get cleaner, more quickly, save tp, and leave nothing to question. I often dab off with a little double fold to dry a little. Idgaf about a little dampness, at least my ass isn’t grimey.
Think about how you pressure wash a deck or home exterior, you wouldn’t just take a fuckin paper towel and some cleaner and hope your house looks immaculate.
DadHands@lemmy.world 10 months ago
- warm water bidets exist, but cold water isnt as bad as you think
- no, thats a common misconception
- you can pat dry with a couple squares of TP, or keep a towel handy since you’re clean now
- you ever see all the nooks and crannies of a butthole? You’re going to hurt yourself before you’re actually clean if you’re just wiping with dry paper. You’re just smearing shit around your asshole and then going about your day with a shitty asshole acting like that’s not a problem that needs solving
UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’ve had a bidet for a while now and here has been my experience:
- I have a cold water bidet which used to annoy me a bit but I soon got to the point where I don’t even notice or care. At any rate, there are warm water bidets but you will need to run a hot water line off of your sink likely.
- You get water on your ass which to me feels cleaner than an ass which hasn’t been washed at all. Using paper in public places now makes me wish bidets were more widely used because TP alone doesn’t leave me feeling clean anymore. I suppose you would get water everywhere if you were squatting instead of sitting.
- You can let it air dry but even if you don’t, it takes a lot less TP than wiping without it. We go through less than half of the TP that we used to before getting the bidet.
- TP is convenient but not cheap. You can get a quality home bidet for $20-$30 which will save you a good amount of money in the long run since you won’t be going through nearly as much TP.
I used to think bidets were weird until I started using one on a regular basis. Now I can’t live without it.
KrisND@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Thank you for your reply. After yours and others replies, I’ve went ahead and order one to give it a try. I just hadn’t really explored the idea before. Thanks for the information!
Phoonzang@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Remodeled the house including bathrooms, went for japanese style bidet (i.e. included in the toilet). Would not want to live without it.
KrisND@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Thank you for addressing my concerns, adjustable pressure would be a key thing. After a few other replies as well, I have actually ordered one to give it a try.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I have a bidet add-on for my regular toilet (North American style), and I’m wondering what the cost Delta is for the Japanese style toilet was. My SO and I are planning on adding a bathroom to the house and we’re definitely getting a bidet, it’s just a matter of what we get, and I’ve been thinking to get one built into the toilet at least. But I’m not sure if it will explode our budget.
What was your experience?
Phoonzang@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The one we got was really expensive, but it was the only brand available in Germany that actually has those things in the market for 10+ years (so it’s a well tested product). It’s one of the premium brands for bathroom “furniture” anyway, and the bidet ones are their top of the line bowls, so I guess in the end we’re not just paying premium for the bidet. Including installation and all the other parts, I think it was something like 3 or 3.5k EUR. I don’t really have any comparison (the cheaper brand would be around 1k less), but the thing is well thought through, has tons of options, easy to clean, easy maintenance, and has some really long warranty. I still feel I splurged on it, but in the grand scheme of things when remodeling a house (roughly 150k in total), I did not really register. Don’t know if that helps in any way…
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Thanks! It definitely set some expectation for me. At least I know an approximate ballpark for a high end one.
I hope you continue to enjoy it for a very long time.