Comment on Tale as old as time

Hazdaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It took me a long time to reach this conclusion. I love TOS, and the characters are cultural icons, but when I want to fanboy over the whole “philosophy” of Star Trek, I’m thinking of TNG every single time.

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  • Hazdaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ll probably get wrecked in here for saying this,but I never liked TOS. It’s so campy and hokey. Even the movies with the original cast don’t interest me all that much. I respect them for paving the way for TNG, but I’ll never choose TOS over TNG.

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    • CrayonMaster@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      TOS is fun to watch in an ironic, cult classic, campy, laughing-at-it-not-with-it way. TNG was the first actually good star trek.

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    • BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have never watched TOS, but I have watched all the TOS movies and I am fond of them.

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      • Hazdaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I wouldn’t say they are related at all, at least in terms of how the TV comes off vs the movies even though the cast is the same. TOS TV show is not too dissimilar to the old school Batman show in it’s corniness. Not to that level of silliness, but they were contemporaries of each other when they aired on TV in the late 60s.

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    • zaphod@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s actually why can rewatch TOS endlessly but TNG only occasionally. TOS is that light popcorn fare that’s entertaining but you don’t take very seriously. TNG is serious sci-fi that challenges the audience often with very difficult subject matter. The latter is objectively the better show but if I’m looking for something to throw on for casual fun, for me it’s TOS all the way.

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      • The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This is how I am too. TOS feels like a lesser commitment to watching something, so it winds up being easier to throw on casually.

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      • kamenlady@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Same, though there’s one i can really watch endlessly: TAS. Giant Spock melting minds with normal Spock always gets me.

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    • ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I agree. TOS has some interesting characters and fun moments, but I just can’t get into like I get into TNG. TNG is a series I can watch start to finish and all the movies and then start right over and watch it all again. TOS is one I might re-watch every 5+ years to refresh my memory, but I’ll put it on exclusively while I’m doing something else so I don’t waste my attention. My Dad loves TOS and TNG, and regularly references TOS, expecting me to remember episode names and whole plot lines. Oops.

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    • AEsheron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I tried to go back and watch it as part of a kind of personal nerd pilgrimage. I just couldn’t get through it to save my life. Then I hit the beginning of TNG and was shocked, that was not what I remembered at all from all the reruns I saw growing up. I’m honestly still kind of shocked it lasted long enough to grow the beard.

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      • Hazdaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I really think that can be said for a lot of shows. First few episodes, and sometimes the first few seasons don’t hit like the later ones. Simpsons, Seinfeld, TNG, Arrested Development and a lot of other shows were constantly on the cusp of getting canceled until they got their audience and the writers hit their stride with the story.

        It happens so much to shows that we know ended up turning out good, that it always makes me wonder how many shows were canceled a few episodes or maybe a season or two sooner than they should have.

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  • abbadon420@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That is very well said. Tng embodies the philosophy of start trek better.

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• eran_morad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Unfair advantage, TNG has Picard.

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  • Hazdaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Picard is definitely the top card there, but seriously the rest of the cast was damn good too.

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    • eran_morad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      mos def

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      • Dee@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I actually don’t think he had a role in TNG.

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  • HandwovenConsensus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Star Trek: Picard has Picard too…

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    • Hupf@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Unfortunately, it also has hubris.

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• SulaymanF@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Season one of TNG was compared to TOS and TNG didn’t fare too well early on. The Naked Now? A copy of The Naked Time. Data trying to be human was compared to Spock. LaForge wasn’t like Scotty.

  It wasn’t until the show developed into its own thing that it became great.

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  • AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Laforge wasn’t the engineer season one, right?

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    • nxdefiant@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Correct, he was a helmsman

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