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• prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Christ alive this is a loaded ask.

  The New Testament was a new promise that was to change god from his old vengeful ways to his new ways.

  Now, why did “he” die for everybody? He didn’t. Jesus was crucified, theoretically (as there is no actual proof of the event, just people talking about it later and that being deemed “good enough”), for treason.

  The story is “this time god sacrificed his child for you” as a “ok we’re even now let’s stop and now I’m a good guy” PR campaign.

  None of it is real and the points are made up.

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• Bonsoir@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The belief in a hell or in a Limbo kind of prove that paradise is not for everyone. Depends which dogmas you grew up with, at this point.
  About God being sacrificed to himself, it was mainly a way to stop an old tradition of sacrificing goats every year in order to atone for sins. Now people can just say that the Christ already died for that, so they don’t have to act like barbarians and kill poor animals.

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The offer is for everyone, people choose whether or not to take Him up on it

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    • Bonsoir@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “I sell luxury housing for everyone, it’s not my fault if some people are poor!”
      My brother in christ, YOU made poor people.

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      • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Difference is luxury houses cost money, Jesus does not

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      • psud@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I recall something in his favourite part of the Bible about rich men, camels, eye of a needle and heaven

        Anyone surviving in a major western nation and not living on the streets in a place with no welfare is well rich in terms of camels and needle eyes

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    • Pandantic@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Again, depends on the dogma. There are faiths which believe that people who are ignorant of the Gospel, of Jesus, do not get into Heaven.

      desiringgod.org/…/what-about-those-who-have-never…

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      • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Within our lifetimes, God reveals Himself to us. It’s the following of the Holy Spirit which leads us to Jesus. However, it’s next to impossible these days for the vast majority of the world’s population to not hear about Jesus. God knows everyone’s hearts. I think this video explains it well. However, basically everyone who has access to the comment I made and this forum has access to the Gospel. It is very much a free offering. It’s also worth realising that missionary work is also important, and there’s a reason why I want people to have another chance to hear about Jesus

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    • psud@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Catholic dogma (which pre-dates whatever you follow) says unbaptised babies aren’t qualified for heaven, and believers have surreptitiously baptised babies and children of non-Christian background

      What good deity punishes people for not reaching an age where they might be baptised? Especially when the dead baby is dead thanks to His ineffable plan

      What good deity punishes people born before their invention for not knowing about them?

      What good deity punishes people for being born in a country where that deity is unpopular

      But I’m sure your version is softened so good people all get heaven.

      Judaism says you have to be of one of the Jewish tribes. And that pre-dates all Christianity.

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      • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Good thing the Catholics are wrong, then

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