Oh fuck off with the good guy thing, it’s a private company trying to make money, there’s no good people even profit is the goal, there’s no good billionaires and Gaben is one.
Coelacanth@feddit.nu 2 weeks ago
Can we not go after one of the few good guys in gaming? Please? If you want to hound someone Nintendo is right over there.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
RandomException@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Let’s replace “good guy” with “one of the few actually good services in gaming”, would you still disagree?
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
No, they’re still overcharging us if they make enough profit that the boss could become a billionaire while the employees make more than the industry average.
I don’t know what goes though people’s mind to get them to defend for profit private companies, they’re not there to be your friend, they’re there to get you to take the money you earned and spend it while gaslighting you into believing that you get your money’s worth.
RandomException@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I mean I get what you’re saying, but Valve is actually one of the few large tech companies that are providing an actually good service (Steam). People should be allowed to make money by providing value to their customers because that’s the motivation of building such services and products in the first place.
The hatred should go towards the companies abusing their position and violating customers and then just cashing excessive amounts of money for a crap product/service that has no real competition. If Valve had started making their competitors lives harder, by generating lots of nonsense lawsuits for example, they should absolutely be blasted down to hell by everybody. As long as they are just earning lots of bucks by providing a service people want to use without restricting using other services and playing with healthy rules otherwise as well, it’s all fine and everyone working on the great service SHOULD earn more than average.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Okay, but is Gaben more deserving of this than white replacement supporter, anti-trans fearmonger and apartheid diamond mine baby Musk? Than makes people piss in bottles in warehouses Bezos?
Is what steam does more predatory than basically every major music publisher (the big three), than MPAA? Than OpenAI? Than Meta? Than the streaming services? Than Nintendo? Than Apple? Than Google? Uber?.. And so on and so on.
So why pick on Valve? I’d go after fucking taco bell before Valve. Make it make sense.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
You assume that I’m not pissed at all these corporations?
uranibaba@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Isn’t that the discussion though? Take the time and money spent on this to fight someone more deserving.
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Shame you’re getting so downvoted. People are so determined to believe in good philanthropic billionaires that they forget the system that allows the accumulation of such ridiculous wealth doesn’t work for nice philanthropic people. It was like this with Elon musk, before he sacked his publicists (my guess) before the cave diver thing. People were saying he was going so save humanity or some shit. All he’s done is fuck up twitter. Same with this guy. I use steam and I think my steam deck is a cool little machine but that doesn’t inspire me to tongue the sweaty arsehole of an obscenely rich guy.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
At least there’s a few people that get it
Carighan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Even if you believe that all privately owned capital is intrinsicly evil, you still ought to go after companies from most to least problematic within a specific category, no?
That is, for digital storefronts, start with the likes of Epic or in a broader digital gaming space in general, Microsoft or Ubisoft. Go after Steam when you’ve cleaned up the rapists, backroom dealers and collusionists.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
You think humanity is unable to take care of two things at once?
You think Epic is worse when Valve has 70% of the market so they’re in a position to ruin everything in a second? You realize that the PC gaming market is dependent on the goodwill of a single guy?
SaltySalamander@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Such a simplistic view of the world.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Emptying the bank accounts of billionaires and redistributing the wealth would save more lives then any philanthropy.
Stop trying to defend the people at the top of the food chain, you’re the prey they feed on.
Stovetop@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Companies are never your friend.
Valve is like any other company. They’re as good as your money is good.
Kedly@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Its still going after the LEAST shitty company and expecting your life to get better when the competition is FAR WORSE
Stovetop@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Fair, but not-shitty companies eventually become shitty companies in almost every circumstance. I hate making the argument that someone is fine because they only hurt a few people compared to the guy who hurts lots.
MossyFeathers@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
No. It’s easier to go after the “good guys” than the bad guysn because they’re easier to beat. They won’t use all kinds of slimy, underhanded tactics to fuck you over.