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StaySquared@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Literally good for you, eh?

Masturbate right before gym, then go train. Note how your performance was. Especially if its a squat or a deadlift day.

Note down what time you went to sleep, when you woke up, and every meal you ate (all calories, including macros).

Now refrain from masturbation from that day onto the next session you have of the same exercise, make sure you go to sleep within the same time the night before, wake the same time the day of training, and ate the same exact meals, go train the same exact exercise, same sets, reps, and weight. Note your performance.

yeah yeah down vote me.

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chemicalprophet@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
This is pretty incel-ish. Here’s an article linking several studies which contradict your anecdotal suggestions. But you keep not fucking, I’ll cover for you!

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jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Positive results on a quasi-scientific self-experiment is not a good way to gain knowledge. At best it is how you specifically react to the variables introduced; however, it seems that you only performed this self-experiment on two separate occasions or perhaps only when you planned to go to the gym. Although your attempt to limit confounding variables is commendable, it is not enough to reach a conclusion. To definitely find the truth on the matter, many more participants must be enrolled and the experiment should last for at least three weeks, but hopefully much longer than so as to definitely reduce any confounding variables that will influence the results (sleep quality, nutrition, stress, alcoholic beverages, etc.). Some of the better studies regarding physical performance were running for around six months just for this reason.

Specifically regarding your self-experiment, if it was indeed performed as one session vs. one other session, there could be any number of confounding variables that could have effected your performance other then masturbation. Did you keep a sleep journal during the experiment (recording night mood, morning mood, amount of sleep)? Did you consume alcoholic beverages in the seven days leading up to the session? What was your specific workout routine?

In my opinion you should continue this experiment, but record more data for longer amounts of time; say six months of abstention, and six months of regular masturbation. Of course, this produces it’s own confounding variables because it could very well be that the result you get has nothing to do with whether or not you masturbated, but rather the gains you made during the first trial period. Which is why to be able to tell people what is truth and what is incorrect, more participants must be recruited to validate the results; otherwise, it will only ever be (again) at best (i.e. confounding variables properly accounted for), how you specifically react to abstention.

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- Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  With only a single event, it could be something as boring as what music you listened to during a workout. That can actually have a pretty strong influence, where maturation at best has a small influence, if any. If that were the case, the Olympics wouldn’t be full of athletes fucking, because releasing their sperm somehow has a negative effect on performance. (If you believe it’s only maturation, not sex, I’m going to need you to consider what mechanism could possibly effect this, because I can’t think of any.)
  
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lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I don’t notice much of a difference personally and I have several years of consistent workout logs to go off.

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TheColonel@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Nobody tells this guy when to cum!

And I mean nobody!

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Cowbob12@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m actually curious on this one, I don’t have gym equipment or membership, is there something else I can do to compare performance if I were to masturbate vs if I didn’t?

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- dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s all old coaches tales. Olympic athletes not only masturbate but actively fuck each senseless during the Olympics and you don’t see any effect on their performance in the slightest. If you are such a wimp that busting a nut makes you lose your breath sooner when jogging, then you have different medical problems. Cardiac atrophy for example. Masturbating barely even burns calories to begin with.
  
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  - Lovstuhagen@hilariouschaos.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    But to be entirely fair to the guy’s point:
    
    Lots of top athletes have superstitions about abstaining from intercourse prior to events - some are very extreme, with fighters isolating themselves from their spouses and training for months without any release before their MMA fight/boxing match. Some say they do it for, say, just a week ahead of time, etc.
    
    There are a few who have the opposite philosophy and claim to actually do it more in the week leading up to the fight.
    
    It’s really a massive point of contention because some people claim it is a mere superstition while others absolutely will not break their routine.
    
    There is also the famous incident where Bobby Fisher says that he performed poorly at a tournament because he had sex after the first night and the experience totally removed him from his focus…
    
    This might be why it impacts fighters and certain people whose lifting styles are really about maximized performance and not a routine… If concentration is interrupted, it can result in very poor output. Like I can see how someone who is very intense about what they are doing and requires total focus would be interrupted by any form of sexual distraction. This is probably very, very relevant to guys who are fighters…
    
    This might also have to do with perspectives on sexuality - people who ascribe a lot of meaning to it versus those who do not…
    
    Lots of stuff to consider, I think.
    
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    StaySquared@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Interestingly if I refrain from ejaculation, the longer I go, the more aggressive my performance is. I was in the camp that it was all BS. This was in my late teens and early 20s. I decided to test this claim after a gym owner/coach/professional bodybuilder gave me his thoughts on his personal journey into gym training, explaining that he would not ejaculate 1 week prior to a set of specific exercises he had planned to PR (hit a new personal record).
    
    I’ve gone so far from refraining to ejaculate (about 6 weeks) that I would literally urinate a mixture of urine and ejaculate - without the orgasm. Reaching this far into refraining, my aggression and focus was noticeable. More interestingly and may have been coincidental, but refraining from ejaculation even eliminated joint pain I had in my elbows from heavy bench and overhead pressing. I’m including this because apparently there’s people who have arthritis (of some sort) and after ejaculation, their arthritis flares up immediately after.
    
    I personally don’t care if people want to call it a myth, but if you’re an athlete, you compete, or simply take weight training seriously, you should maybe test out said myth for yourself.
    
    I joked with my wife that I couldn’t break a 685lbs deadlift, I hit a plateau there - 4 times in a row (4 different sessions) until I decided to refrain from sex for 10 days leading up to my next deadlift session where I was able to smoothly pull a 690, so smooth I debated to go after the 700 (my next milestone) but decided to save it for another time.
    
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    dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That’s a problem with attitudes about sex and lack of impulse control during competition. The same could be said about doing your taxes before a tournament. It can take your focus, but it is not the taxes fault. It’s your lack of impulse control to keep your mind focused on the competition. Bad coaches know that there is a strong psychological component. But it had nothing to do with the sexual nature of the stimulus, just what you do with it and what is the attitude towards it.
    
    Still, absolutely nothing to do with any physiological element of performance. Jerking one off the night before is not going to knock off anything, much less weight in your lifting personal record, for instance.
    
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- Crashumbc@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Ignore a rando on the Internet?
  
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- lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You could do bodyweight stuff. Pushups, pullups, squats, core work, etc.
  
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