I’m not so sure I’d call myself a “tankie”, but I’d like a $12k new car and if it were an EV, even better. Cars, like everything else, have gotten so stupidly expensive. It would have been nice to see one thing actually become more affordable because I know wages ain’t gonna increase accordingly for a long time.
Kneecapping decarbonization efforts in the name of “jobs” and “the economy” is just straight up Republican policy. I do not care how many jobs are preserved on my rapidly warming planet.
How does everyone buying a brand new car result in decarbonization versus keeping the ones we’ve already expended carbon building and upgrading them when they break? There are 283 million cars on the road in the US and replacing them all is going to generate a metric fuckton of carbon.
Where in the world can you buy a $12k EV that doesn’t come from China?
We have subsidized them here with the $7500 credit and loans/grants to retool factories but it’s a drop in the bucket compared to what China is doing.
Ford just released their financials for last quarter and it showed them losing $130k for every EV they sold: caranddriver.com/…/ford-ev-revenue-losses-q1-2024… so clearly they aren’t subsidized so much that they can sell them for pennies on the dollar like BYD.
TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 years ago
I’m not so sure I’d call myself a “tankie”, but I’d like a $12k new car and if it were an EV, even better. Cars, like everything else, have gotten so stupidly expensive. It would have been nice to see one thing actually become more affordable because I know wages ain’t gonna increase accordingly for a long time.
Neato@ttrpg.network 2 years ago
Foreign countries flooding the market with subsidized cars will end up killing local production. Then they can control the market.
Really we should be subsidizing EVs from our own manufacturers.
regul@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Kneecapping decarbonization efforts in the name of “jobs” and “the economy” is just straight up Republican policy. I do not care how many jobs are preserved on my rapidly warming planet.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 years ago
But the status quo is more important than *checks notes… climate change! Won’t someone think of the economy! /s
ShepherdPie@midwest.social 2 years ago
How does everyone buying a brand new car result in decarbonization versus keeping the ones we’ve already expended carbon building and upgrading them when they break? There are 283 million cars on the road in the US and replacing them all is going to generate a metric fuckton of carbon.
NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 years ago
You are. Still not doing much to corporate greed.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 years ago
We barely are/car makers just jack up their prices so they make more off the subsidy
BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 2 years ago
The argument of China subsidizing EV is always coming back but I would be curious to know the comparison with the US.
The US are subsidizing EV too I would not be surprised if the amount of subsidy per EV produced is much higher for US manufacturers than China.
ShepherdPie@midwest.social 2 years ago
Where in the world can you buy a $12k EV that doesn’t come from China?
We have subsidized them here with the $7500 credit and loans/grants to retool factories but it’s a drop in the bucket compared to what China is doing.
Ford just released their financials for last quarter and it showed them losing $130k for every EV they sold: caranddriver.com/…/ford-ev-revenue-losses-q1-2024… so clearly they aren’t subsidized so much that they can sell them for pennies on the dollar like BYD.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 years ago
That’s good actually. Car dependency is a dead end for humanity.
ShepherdPie@midwest.social 2 years ago
How does this change anything about car dependency?
Neato@ttrpg.network 2 years ago
Completely different discussion. We aren’t moving away from them so not being able to produce them only hurts the us.