I can think of plenty of games with writing I’ve really enjoyed in recent years, not the least of which is Baldur’s Gate 3 just last year, but FPSes in particular are in one of only a few genres where I haven’t been well served lately.
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RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Writers these days just seem to not know how to write an enjoyable story period. So much bad writing in the entertainment sector now, its not like back in the 80s and 90s where movie theaters were showing slapper after slapper, you’ll be lucky to find maybe one or two that match up to the likes of Jurassic Park, Ghostbusters, Star Wars, or Titanic.
Its similar with games, but shifted forward a decade to the 90s and 00s. Games these days have a very hard time matching up to games like Ocarina of Time, Chrono Trigger, Silent Hill, or Metal Gear Solid. While games like Silent Hill 1 have laughably poor quality voice acting by todays standards in terms of sound quality, the story was well written and kept the player’s interest. Of games from my recent memory, the only one that matches up is Elden Ring, which has gone the direction of basically removing all the writing from the game.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 7 months ago
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 7 months ago
BG3 is another good example but surely you can agree that was like a drop of water in an ocean of sand. Games that well done are incredibly rare, and it mostly comes down to just writing. The actual game mechanics and graphics quality of games now are better than they have ever been for the most part. But the games are bad, not because of those things, but because the weiting fails to capture the players interest.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I would not agree with that, no. First because I’d say mechanics are almost always the most important part anyway, and also because I’ve probably come across more stories that have held my interest in recent years than I did 25 years ago. Stories were pretty basic back then, more often than not. In fact, these days, I’ve been carried through mediocre gameplay by well-told stories more than a few times in the past decade, and I don’t think that ever happened 25 years ago.
TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 7 months ago
As someone with an avatar of the Q from Quake 1, I can avidly say that writing was not better in the past.
Just off the top of my head from the last decade:
-Baldurs gate 3 -Firewatch -Return of the Obra Dinn -Disco Elysium -Tyranny -Shadowrun Dragonfall -Red Dead Redemption 2 -Witcher 3 -Hellblade Senuas Sacrifice -Life is Strange -Prey (2017) -The Red Strings Club
Seriously, go check the story to Perfect Dark. Hilarious? Yes. A “good story”? No.
There are myriad issues in gaming now that weren’t there in the past, but good writing is (thankfully) still around.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 7 months ago
The writing in Disco Elysium is so good that it wouldn’t matter if the gameplay between dialogue was just some match 4 bejewelled ripoff, it’d be worth it.
Anyway, I agree we’ve got so much better in the last decade+ at fitting fiction and gameplay together in a satisfying and complimentary manner.
I remember finding games like Chrono Trigger being as stumbling upon an overflowing oasis, compared to the paltry and usually badly translated heroes journeys that we typically got.
But now I can think of dozens of games, many of them indie, that have stories on par (and if I set aside my nostalgia goggles, even surpassing) that of old classics like CT.
rockerface@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Idk, my favourite writer is Brandon Sanderson and he still keeps writing with the supersonic speed. Maybe that’s just you. Unless you mean writing in games and movies specifically, for which I am not qualified enough to say
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I was specifically talking about writing for video games and movies, I haven’t read very many books or comics lately so I couldn’t know if it applies there as well or not.
pennomi@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s easy to remember just the successes of the past and ignore the fact that the vast majority of media then was shit too… we’ve simply forgotten about the things that ended up being mediocre. Survivorship bias is really really strong.
CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 7 months ago
It’s like nostalgia blinders.
An example a lot of people here can relate to is thinking about game consoles and handhelds they played growing up like the GBA.
There were likely some great games produced for it but there was also a lot of shovelware movie tie-ins and horrendous ports that were misrepresented in advertisements.
Peffse@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s funny how much survivorship bias we have. Movies, Music, Games. It’s so easy to forget how bad some previous stuff was.
aniki@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Nah fam – go look at the movies that came out in 92 or 94. They were all absolute masterpieces we still about. There’s definitely a filter of time but there’s a reason for the precedent.
pennomi@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’d love to see a scientific study that shows this, if the effect really does exist.