It was indeed an awful movie, but not for the reasons the misogynists gave.
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the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I wanted that movie to be good. I wanted the neck beard misogynists who were birching about it since it was announced to be wrong. They weren’t wrong, that movie was a shitpickle.
samus12345@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Why did they disparage it?
Excuse me as I rant, but, outside the movie, has there ever been a woman on AVGN for chuds to look down on? Anyone hoisting the anti-femininity flag and charging at AVGN holds a similar rationale to TERFs, but points their convoluted purity test at misogyny an its exclusion rather than femininity and its expression. What an inane concept.
samus12345@lemmy.world 7 months ago
They disparaged it because the movie starred women in the leading roles that were played by men in the original movie when gender has nothing to do with why it sucked.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Nobody’s coming at AVGN. James seems like a decent dude and I’m sure his criticisms of this movie are valid and not based in misogyny.
Taleya@aussie.zone 7 months ago
Thankfully we have Afterlife
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
The new one was good too. I’m glad this turd didn’t kill the franchise.
Taleya@aussie.zone 7 months ago
frozen empire? I haven’t seen it yet, glad to hear
VonCesaw@lemmy.world [bot] 7 months ago
The neckbeards said it was bad because it had women as the main cast
The movie was bad because it was made bad, not because of the cast
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 months ago
See I always feel like there’s nuance buried in the way people treat neckbeards and their ideologies.
I didn’t think it was gonna be bad because it was a female cast. I thought it was gonna be bad because of the women they cast.
Them being women is not my problem but I seem to get lumped in with the incels because if you criticize a woman you’re an incel/neckbeard
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The heavy marketing as “the female”/gender swapped Ghost Busters was a huge red flag. Annihilation came out around the same time, had an all female cast of scientists and wasn’t marketed as an artificial culture war movie. They just had a story to tell from the female prospective.
yuri@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Making gender a selling point is always a weird vibe. You remember the TLC song No Scrubs? Did you know there was a clapback response song called No Pigeons?
It was put together by some out of touch producer who thought men would rally behind it. But in reality men on the whole weren’t really angry about the TLC song, and Sporty Thievz didn’t have much star power on their own. It hit #12 on the US Billboard Hot 100, got a bunch of radio play for a minute, and then they faded into obscurity entirely.
Taleya@aussie.zone 7 months ago
Yeah their whole schtick was 'it’s ghostbusters
in spaaacebut women !it brought absolutely nothing new to the table and expected to be lauded for a gimmick. And I don’t mean that casting an all female cast was a gimmick, but they cast an all-female cast and *treated it like a gimmick.
They literally built their marketing around it, like we were strange beasts in a zoo, come see the females in their movie! marvel at them! marvel!!! It called itself revolutionary and simply peddled the same tale that honestly got old as hell in the 1990′s of “women are treated like shit and then have to fight for every inch of respect before bringing down straw misogyny”. I don’t need that shit in my movies. I fucking live that shit IRL.
The special effects were crap and the plotline was paper thin. It dove headfirst into comedy over any soupcon of substance. It was a half-baked and poorly executed movie trying to feed off the nostalgia of a legacy franchise with a bit of stirred up contention. It was Ghostbusters II with the genders swapped.
It had a decent cast, and some middling talent behind it, coulda been a fun B-movie surprise (like Spy or Zoolander) and they just went for the lowest effort imaginable to grab a quick buck and fucked it in the arse, then blamed misoggyknees when people called it for the turd it was.
TheFriar@lemm.ee 7 months ago
What was wrong with the women they cast? Good comedy actors. I get SNL isn’t for everyone, but they all have talents that exceed that show.
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 months ago
They’re great actresses for sure.
But they didn’t have the right energy for it imo.
Not the right choices for Ghostbusters of all things. There’s different types of comedy and they didn’t have the right type for it.
Sizzler@slrpnk.net 7 months ago
Quick reminder that this cast went to hospital for dying kids in ghostbuster uniforms.
You really gonna stand by that?
yuri@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
That’s a really awesome thing they did and I respect it a lot.
I don’t think that changes the quality of the movie though, right? Unless you mean like, “They wouldn’t have done that if the movie hadn’t been made, so it’s a good movie by merit of having enabled the cheering up of one specific group of dying children”? Because I suppose you could make that argument, but I don’t know if many folks would agree with “the butterfly effect” as a metric for movie quality.
Sizzler@slrpnk.net 7 months ago
It’s a case of being tone-deaf, along with clearly sexist characters, how much of a bimbo did they make the male lead? Yeah, not as progressive as you want to pretend.
endhits@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That doesn’t change that the movie is shit