Comment on What kind of institutional gaslighting is this?

• Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Woosh.

  Also quiet quitting isn’t anything except a bullshit term dreamed up by capitalist crybabies.

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  • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    More like inexperienced middle-management. Discussing the team member’s reasons for disengagement could lead to a solution for them, or even multiple team members. Saying “I have nothing to complain about” proves ineffective leadership looking for cause to terminate.

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    • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The only solution I would accept involves guillotines for the rich and the immediate end to the exploitation of the proletariat globally, so I don’t think that’s going to work for most middle managers.

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      • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s fine. I’m just saying the managers in that meme are the problem, not the employees.

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    • rwhitisissle@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Engagement and disengagement are effectively separate forms of labor expected of an employee, though, and they’re virtually never formally codified. If I’m a coder and my job is to write code, don’t expect me to be enthused about writing terrible medical billing software. Enthusiasm and engagement are emotional labor, which I’m not compensated for, and which, to some extent, you can’t realistically expect me to demonstrate. I’m not able to “be engaged” beyond performing my tasks and whatever technical or administrative duties I’ve been assigned. Expecting me to contribute in a way orthogonal to that requires my job to be fundamentally different from what it actually is.

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      • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s fine if that’s how you like to work. All I’m saying is if an employee is silently quitting by doing the same work but shows less engagement/low morale, the solution isn’t for the manager isn’t to shrug their shoulders because you can’t fire them. That implies the manager’s goal is to terminate due to low performance, which is really shitty leadership.

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• anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Then just make the minimum 30 pieces of flair 🙄

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• SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The issue many people have is how some bosses redefine underperforming as “not doing enough unpaid overtime”.

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  • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well that’s completely fucked. I don’t work for free.

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    • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well that’s completely fucked. That’s also illegal.

      Exactly. But a little illegal activity never stopped a corp. Wage theft is rampant, estimated at $50 billion a year.

      I don’t work for free.

      And that’s called quiet quitting in OP’s post.

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      • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I said this in another thread, but I’m not criticizing quite quitting. I’m criticizing the managers’ response to it. If your employees are meeting expectations but unhappy, you should try to improve their work life, not shrug your shoulders because you don’t have a reason to fire them.

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