he's an evil zionist
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li10@feddit.uk 1 year ago
Why doesn’t Biden just stop the genocide? Is he stupid?
Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 year ago
leadore@kbin.social 1 year ago
Unless this is sarcasm, please get real. I can't believe how many people actually think POTUS is some kind of emperor who just has to decree what they want and the other countries' leaders obey. You think he just has to tell Netanyahu "Stop" and he stops? Surely you're not that naive.
Krono@lemmy.today 1 year ago
It’s not naive to learn from history, like when Reagan told Israel to stop their assault on Lebanon and Israel stopped in less than 24 hours.
Or when HW Bush called up Israel and ended that conflict overnight.
But maybe you’re right, maybe Netanyahu is too entrenched to stop this time. Biden can still stop sending the bombs. He can stop sending the money. He can stop vetoing UN peace resolutions. He could tell his press office to stop running cover for Israel. He could stop bringing up the “40 beheaded babies” lie.
He could do so much to stop this genocide, yet he refuses.
NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Maybe we need a strong progressive president who will hold Isreal accountable, like Ronald Reagan
In addition to not vetoing UN resolutions, Reagan took several actions that many in Israel and the United States perceived as anti-Israel. For example, on June 7, 1981, less than six months after Reagan took office, Israel launched a surprise bombing raid on the Iraqi nuclear reactor at Osirak, and, in so doing, violated the airspace of Saudi Arabia and Jordan. Reagan not only supported UNSC Resolution 487, which condemned the attack, but he also criticized the raid publicly and suspended the delivery of advanced F-16 fighter jets to Israel. Moreover, over the strident objections of Israel and the pro-Israel U.S. lobby groups, Reagan approved the sale of advanced reconnaissance aircraft (AWACS ) to Saudi Arabia, which Israel then viewed as a hostile state.
A year later, in August 1982, when Israeli forces advanced beyond southern Lebanon and began shelling the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) in Beirut, Reagan responded with an angry call to Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, demanding a halt to the operation.
In addition, during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, Reagan intervened directly when Israel threatened to blow up the Commodore Hotel in downtown Beirut, which housed more than 100 western reporters. As David Ottaway, who was then the Washington Post Middle East correspondent and was in the building, pointed out, the Israeli defense minister did not like the media coverage the invasion was getting and wanted to close down the media center.
Biden, on the other hand, even though he had an hour’s notice, failed to intervene to stop Netanyahu from bombing and collapsing the 12-story building that housed the offices of Al Jazeera and the Associated Press in Gaza during the recent bombing campaign. He also failed to publicly condemn the attack, let alone challenge Israel’s contention that the building sheltered Hamas military intelligence assets, despite AP’s insistence that its staff had no evidence that such assets were or ever had been present.
In addition to allowing the UN resolutions to pass and suspending the F-16 delivery, Reagan also restricted aid and military assistance to Israel to help force its withdrawal of troops from Beirut and central Lebanon.
Therefore, if in the future some members of the Biden administration or Congress want to join the international community in condemning Israel’s behavior, or in conditioning U.S. assistance or arms transfers and face resistance from Republicans, they need only point to the precedents established by President Reagan in the first instance.
leadore@kbin.social 1 year ago
"a strong progressive president ... like Ronald Reagan."
wtf? Progressive?!!!?! Reagan?!??!?!!? am I living in the Bizarro World now? Does no one know any history any more? It wasn't even that long ago that Reagan and Thatcher ruined the world. Please educate yourself. Reagan busted the unions, deregulated industry, massively slashed taxes on the wealthy, and ushered in the era of escalating income inequality that continues to this day and destroyed the middle class (it was a thing we had for a brief period after WWI up until Reaganomics).
If you think Regan was some great president because of that oversimplified account you copy/pasted about an incident with Israel then you'd better rethink how you come to conclusions about shit. Educate yourself -- and rethink your conclusions about Biden while you're at it. Life is more complicated than your propaganda sources would have you believe.
Here's a couple links about your hero Reagan.
https://time.com/6334291/racial-wealth-gap-reagan-history/
https://www.salon.com/2014/04/19/reaganomics_killed_americas_middle_class_partner/mister_monster@monero.town 1 year ago
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Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 1 year ago
mister_monster@monero.town 1 year ago
This, but mirrored, some might say.
Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Cutting off supplies to Israel wouldn’t stop the genocide immediately, but it wouldn’t take long
NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 year ago
Man you (either intentionally or unintentionally) underestimate just how much the POTUS can order Israel around. Reagan did it, Bush did it, hell even Biden did it. It's not rocket science.
li10@feddit.uk 1 year ago
Bro, why you telling people to get real on the shitpost community….
This place is getting like Reddit
leadore@kbin.social 1 year ago
Fair point.
can@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
MissJinx@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Jewish businesses and people are the biggest donors to election campaigns. They own the politicians. That’s not an accident by the way, after the war they need a way ro protect themselfs so they started sponsoring the american war machine through politics. The problem is that the same gun that you buy to protect yourself can be used to harm others
NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 year ago
Uh... You're thinking of AIPAC.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 year ago
And this is why we can’t have nice things!
Every fucking time we try to have a discussion about israeli crimes some fuckwad comes in with their conspiracy theory bullshit and spoils the punch for everyone else.
You’re what allows the apologists to keep calling us all antisemites fuckass.
Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Convenient innit
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Too busy curing cancer probably.
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 1 year ago
Because we need Israel as our buffer in the middle east, whether you like it or not. So the truth of the matter is that the US won’t do fucking dick about Israel. Our government will just grumble about it but ultimately watch from the sidelines. That’s just the hard truth. At the end if the day, we need a strong ally in the region, whether anyone likes it or not.
Also, not saying that I agree with Israel’s actions. I absolutely do not, but not having a strong ally like Israel would be absolutely detrimental to the interest of the United States.
gardylou@lemmy.world 1 year ago
NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 year ago
Uh... He literally does. Fucking Reagan did it before.