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qooqie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

• Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  I’m proud to count myself amongst the people who didn’t vote for Biden in the primary. Now I only have to vote for him once.

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• PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Nobody even brought up Trump, but you.

  That is what is so infuriating to me is that nobody is allowed to criticize Biden at all without Trump being brought up.

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  • qooqie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    It’s an election year, Biden being brought up will invoke his competitions name. And people are absolutely using just this topic as a reason to not vote this cycle. They only hurt themselves and everyone else.

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    • PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      You act like Biden can literally not capitulate on this. Why does the voice of the voter no longer matter?

      I dont like this trend of demanding votes without having to earn voters. We are creating a culture of zero accountability to the voters.

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      • Pandantic@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        “So,” said Arthur, hoping he wasn’t sounding ridiculously obtuse, “why don’t people get rid of the lizards?” “It honestly doesn’t occur to them,” said Ford. “They’ve all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they’ve voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.” “You mean they actually vote for the lizards?” “Oh yes,” said Ford with a shrug, “of course.” “But,” said Arthur, going for the big one again, “why?” “Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard,” said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in.” Douglas Adam’s _The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy _

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    • mister_monster@monero.town ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      You go into the Trump circles. Pinch your nose and go see. Their pitch isn’t “he isn’t biden” or “vote for Trump or you’re picking Biden.” They actively like him and want him to be president, whether we disagree with that or not thems the facts. People aren’t bringing up Trump because he’s Biden’s opposition, people are bringing up Trump because that’s what the election is about. Biden’s whole reason for viability is that he is running against Trump, that’s it, that’s all, that’s his campaign slogan and platform. “I’m not Trump”.

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  • antidote101@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    You’re being over sensitive. People are allowed to bring up what they like.

    I’d like to bring up - a switch in democratic systems of representatives to on called “Open List Proportional Representation” where parties are represented in a proportional mix per the votes they actually won.

    Germany, Scotland, and Japan use such systems. I think it’s a better system but it will probably take a loaded Supreme court and a concerted effort to get through.

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  • mister_monster@monero.town ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    That’s because Biden’s entire pitch is “I’m not Trump”. Nobody actually likes him or wants him to be president, they’re just stuck with bad choices in front of them. So you talk about the merits of Biden, that’s the only one you’re going to get, because that’s all he’s got. And in the face of a genocide, people can’t stomach it.

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• blazera@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Your vote is the only voice that matters

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• Gigan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  I’m not voting for either. They both suck

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  • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    You don’t think one sucks even a little less?

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  • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Not voting is a choice that inherently favors republicans due to how consistent they tend to vote. So vote or not, you’re still supporting one candidate or another.

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    • ReallyKinda@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Active support of something totally morally unacceptable seems more morally culpable than refusing to participate. I don’t think most people are consequentialists—the how matters.

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      • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Emotionally yes, mathematically, no, exactly the same, and so morally, exactly the same

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    • mister_monster@monero.town ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      You can’t scare people into supporting something they find abhorrent this time. This rhetoric is not going to work. We are talking about a fucking genocide my dude. You’re delusional if you think “but pussygrabber” is going to motivate principled people.

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      • Belastend@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        That would imply the p7ssygrabber would stop the genocide. He wont. He will accelerate it.

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• Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  So after you could save lives by speaking up. How morally courageous of you.

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