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• maik@infosec.pub ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  To fuck with the training data. But don’t worry, most of the time it accepts it anyways.

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  • TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s what he’s doing. Not why he’s doing it?

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    • meekah@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d assume it’s because he doesn’t want to hand out free labor.

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    • dwindling7373@feddit.it ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You are on Lemmy asking why would anybody fuck with Google?

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      • blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lemmy is cool and mainstream now bucko. Have you seen the amount of shit posts on your front page lately? If not, congrats, you’ve curated your feed about as much as you probably already did on reddit too lol.

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    • prole@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Because fuck them, that’s why. Nobody, not a single person, is out there trying to make AI that will make the lives of average humans more livable. 100% of it is for corporate profit.

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      • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I don’t want to do a job that a machine would do better than me.

        And then where do you think your income will come from? It won’t. Come from anywhere. You’ll just be out of a job, no longer able to afford rent or food, but don’t worry because for a brief moment, they really maximized shareholder value.

        Yeah, that’s my problem, and, on a broader scale, society’s problem. When enough people get hungry, things will have to change. The alternative is…doing pointless labor that a machine could do better, just to prop up a failed system. Forced inefficiency. How depressing is that?

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      • TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re not doing work for free. That’s a really weird way to look at it. You’re doing it to gain access to a service, an entirely optional one. It’s somewhat believable when people say oh, yes I have a car but I have to have a car, I’d like not to. But nobody is required to use GMail to live.

        And yes, feel free to be an AI pessimist. You could quite well be right. It seems bizarre to me however to make an effort to sabotage this one specific AI training (which might stop cars from running us down) so that you can log into something which will also be used to train AI (to sell you shit). And then posting your opinion about it here, where it will be used to train an AI.

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    • then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The lolz.

      Or to slow the inevitable AI takeover of society.

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      • TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is it going to put a lot of… traffic light recognisers out of work?

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    • myxi@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The data collected from these tools are used to train models that detect cars and stuff with a lot of accuracy. Decades of data from millions of users each day. Once these are perfected, they will be sold to smart car users as auto-driving mode and so on. These services are likely going to be subscription based to maximize the profits.

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      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not to mention that they’ll probably be used by cops to profile people long before then…

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      • TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes?

        Sorry I’m not sure “why?” is a difficult question. People keep explaining that is happening as if this hasn’t been happening in various forms for 20 years.

        If its “I don’t want to contribute to machine learning”, I’ve got exciting news for you about every post you are making on this site where every comment is publicly accessible and consumable.

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  • rbn@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What? Why?

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• Zoot@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean if you think about it, you’re doing unpaid labor to prove you’re a human.

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  • TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is that a reason not to do it?

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    • Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Obviously.

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    • meekah@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Might not be for you, but for them it seems to be

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• JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Because assuming you are human is not so much about the correctest of selections as much as it’s about moving the cursor around the screen in imprecise, non robotic, humanly ways.

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• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  These are actually self taught for what is right, based on what most people click, do just for shits n giggs he’s talking about peppering the data used for verification with incorrect responses.

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