Comment on Or we could do metric time
RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 6 months ago
As a software dev who has lost weeks of his life dealing with timezones, leap days, daylight savings time, date math and other associated nonsense I fully support this being the way the world is. I don’t want to go through the transition to get there though
Developers are the only people against DST changes, just because of how complex it will get. Dear God cities are removing DST! Cities! It means I need to know if you are in or out of a city to know if you need to be shown daylight or standard time!
Just please do it nationally yes or no
Write everything in UTC, cast to local time zone for UIs
Life problems solved
That’s essentially what I did in my recent UI that I made for someone.
That… still requires knowing which time zone to display. It doesn’t remove the requirement at all.
Dear God cities are removing DST! Cities! It means I need to know if you are in or out of a city to know if you need to be shown daylight or standard time!
That’s why it’s lucky that identifiers in the tz database are already things like America/New_York instead of “eastern time.”
Newfoundland has only just over 500k population and has a nice GMT-2:30 time zone. That’s an extra half hour difference. Many cities are larger so I can see them wanting better time for themselves.
Ugh. Any time I need to set up a meeting for IST.
thank you for your service, i usually resort to libraries doing the heavy lifting but even then it’s tough and prone to error
lugal@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
Bad news: this has nothing to do with timezones, leap days nor daylight saving time. Honestly, leap days would be worse because they wouldn’t be part of the 7 day week
rockSlayer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s accounted for just like any other leap year, add it to the end of a month. Most calendar models make it July 29. It’s also worth noting that this is actually 360 days, and there are 5 days at the end of each year that’s basically a universal holiday
Flipper@feddit.de 6 months ago
That would just be new year. I’ve already have a list ready for how to name all the months, so we don’t fuck it up like September being the 9. Month again.
LeftHandedWave@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Ooh, tell me what the names would be! Don’t leave me hanging. I HATE that September - December are all off.
lugal@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
Which breaks “day of week = day modulo 7” if every month starts on Monday and not every month has the same number of days
ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
In this scheme, new years day and leap days are not any day of the week or part of any month. They exist outside of the regular calendar as obvious and explicit resets to the remainder problem.
grue@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Look, short of changing Earth’s orbit, something’s not gonna line up no matter what you do. Extra-weekly days are as good a compromise as any in my book.
sukhmel@programming.dev 6 months ago
Leap day and new year day are supposed to not be a week day in this system
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
Just make them holidays, everyone works too much anyway, and it’s just getting worse for no reason.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Leap day gets it’s own name outside of saturday through sunday. It’s an all awesome holiday.
lugal@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
… which fucks with the way the day of the week is calculated by computers as I already explained others
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Y2k was handled. This can be too.