vox.com/…/lizard-people-conspiracy-theory-explain…
Or it could have absolutely nothing to do with Jewish people.
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gedaliyah@lemmy.world 8 months agoSo, when you remove what I assume is an announcement bot and lizard people from the equation, the answer is George Takei? Yeah, that sounds about right.
I don’t like threads at all, but referring to Mark Zuckerberg and Adam Mosseri as “lizard people” is pretty antisemitic, especially since they are both Jewish people.
I’m guessing that you were unfamiliar with this as an antisemitic dogwhistle, but I also understand that’s the point of a dogwhistle - It doesn’t sound racist unless you already know about it.
Here are a few links to learn more:
businessinsider.com/lizard-people-conspiracy-theo…
www.tiktok.com/…/7144513038274661675
…tumblr.com/…/lizard-people-and-antisemitism-avoi…
seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The article (correctly) names David Icke within the second paragraph or so. That dude popularized the “lizard people” thing and he is EXTREMELY antisemitic. This the whole point of a dogwhistle; it leaves room for plausible deniability. See also: Alex Jones.
So, sorry friend, try again.
seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Try what again?
It’s gone from the internet now but on the wayback machine you can see the list of confirmed lizard people from 2021. I just don’t see any correlation to what you’re trying to sell.
Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Never heard this take before, lizard people has always been the upper class of non-human psychopath rulers and billionaires. I won’t stop using the term in that sense, certainly using tiktok and business insider as sources adds credibility to all this.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Nobody cares also fuck off with your tiktok link
Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
I don’t think they’re Jewish.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Mosseri has dual US/Israel citizenship, and Zuckerberg was raised Reform and has Jewish ancestry. So whether or not that’s why you despise them, the point about the dog whistle is legit. Maybe you should edit it to something more befitting the reasons you despise them. Be creatively critical!
Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
No, it isn’t; a dogwhistle is a message that isn’t detectable by someone unaware of it. Using lizard person like that isn’t an antisemitic dog whistle because people have been using it to disparagingly refer to the wealthy/politicians/etc. irrespective of their heritage for decades at the very least. Whether the term used to be used a specific way, or even how it originated isn’t actually relevant to the question.
Basically what I’m saying is you need to calm down and figure out the difference between being woke and being a wokescold. It’s hard to strike that ballance, but the first step is realizing you haven’t done it yet.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
He’s correct and the more defensive you get the more I feel like you just wanna keep using the term. This is coming from someone who didn’t know any of this and won’t use the term in the future. I can always call Zucc a robot instead 🤖
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Hahaha, I think the only person getting worked up here is yourself. I mean really, what’s cringier than “wokescold”? Next you’ll be calling me a “wokewitch.” For the high crime of checking Wikipedia. Put down the torch and pitchfork, sweetie, you’ll hurt yourself.
gedaliyah@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They are absolutely both Jewish. I’m not sure why you would say that.
squid_slime@lemmy.world 7 months ago
So people calling the British royal family lizards are actually calling them Jewish?
I like lizard people being a term to put down the upper class.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Possibly. That’s basically what David Icke believes.
But I don’t think it is necessarily an antisemitic conspiracy theory.
db2@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Or just possibly it hasn’t got anything to do with Jewish people. This might come as a shock but not everything does.
This is from someone with a reasonable amount of that heritage telling you to shut the hell up already. You’re not the main character.
gedaliyah@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Calm down there achi. You’re coming in with a lot of pretty unnecessary defensive energy. I’m just letting people know about some language that is harmful to a vulnerable minority in case they want to avoid it. You feel free to do with that information what you need.
db2@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Vulnerable. Sure.
I blocked you though so how am I even seeing your silly reply?
PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You’re talking out your ass. Do some research on David Icke, the dude who started the whole lizard people thing. Dude is an antisemite.
db2@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Henry Ford had a portrait of Hitler on the wall by his desk, doesn’t mean I’m not going to drive cars.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Nah, but you can recognise that his social/political thought and language used to express that is not something you should repeat mindlessly and accept and be appreciative of criticism when its given so you can correct future behaviour to make the world a more welcoming place for all. Right?