Comment on Star Citizen's first-person shooting is getting backpack-reloading, dynamic crosshairs, procedural recoil, and other improvements to 'bring the FPS combat to AAA standard'

• GlitterInfection@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is what killed Starfield for me. My character is a down on his luck diplomat who cares for his retiring parents and has to take up a mining job…

  Nope, murder hobo. Literally in the tutorial.

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  • Hadriscus@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I have to agree. Games tend to resort to violence immediately now, no need for justification. I didn’t imagine Starfield would be a shooter at all in fact. Ultimately it was almost exclusively shooting

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    • GlitterInfection@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And a terrible one!

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  • RealFknNito@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I get the desire to compare the two games but Starfield tried too hard to color inside the lines by giving a story and lore while simultaneously trying to make an open ended sandbox which gave us neither. There’s a LARPing town of cowboys with dirt roads existing a few minutes from a hyper advanced planet with platinum roads and somehow they haven’t made contact? The cowboys haven’t progressed their dirt and wood town despite being in spitting distance of a planet of machines that could fabricate advanced tools in seconds?

    Star Citizen seems to take the Dark Souls approach of light narrative, heavy world building, “go learn the world by experiencing it.”

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    • GlitterInfection@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m not sure why you’re getting downvoted here…

      But I would honestly say that the only things I liked about Starfield are the things you’re kind of dismissing. The story and ambiance pieces worked really well, and I ONLY wanted that part.

      Every time I had to do anything space travel, combat, space combat, or inventory management, I died inside.

      I also felt like the cities and locations were tiny and didn’t feel lived in or real. Basically the immersiveness of the game which thrives on immersion was not handled well so I was left with a terrible shooter.

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      • RealFknNito@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well the story held the game back because the game wanted to be more open than than the story allowed and vice versa where the game held the story back because a lot of areas were underdeveloped or don’t make sense with where they are for the sake of the story they wanted to tell. It felt like two conflicting ideas at the core which ended up with what we have.

        Why are cowboys within trading distance of a future tech planet? How have they not interacted to a point where they don’t need dirt roads? The only answer seems to be for the sake of being neat and is baffling. Empty planets being explained as being on purpose to ‘get more joy out of discovering ones with things on it’ and just… it was astoundingly average and competes for the worst Bethesda game against 76.

        Bethesda excels at world building and it was disastrous to watch them fail at that.

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• intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Because an FPS avatar is the body many people are most used to inhabiting in game worlds.

  If you want people to feel immersed in an environment, you have to give them the virtual body they’re used to.

  Like imagine you’re playing Battlefield 5, and then UFOs land and you go on a big space adventure. If you’re not still able to pull out that tommy gun and fire rounds the same way, your body feels different. It doesn’t feel like you’re there.

  FPS is the biggest genre with the most resources in it. That makes it a standard for virtual environments everywhere.

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• RealFknNito@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s the entire thing they’re doing. The violent encounters are being planned for, obviously, but they’re not a requirement.

  Star Citizen’s approach seems to be to add the ability to do as many things as possible while giving you the option to define how you want to interact with them. Of course, you’re probably going to have to defend yourself from the stray pirate or bandit with whatever you end up doing but that’s par for the course.

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• Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s the ultimate goal though. Just last night I flew from a mining outpost on a moon to find resources, scanned a whole bunch, mined a bunch, and then logged out from my bed within the ship. 0 combat. That’s a life they want to have possible and I’m all for it! lol

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• robdor@lemmynsfw.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You should be able to avoid violent encounters but yeah you would be limiting where you can go.

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