Comment on Goes right over some people's heads, I tell ya
Egonallanon@feddit.uk 14 hours agoNah the entire point of the 40k is a satire of fascism and all the horrors it brings. Humanity is fighting to survive because everyone else in the universe quite rightly hates them for their 10,000 year campaign of conquest and genocide. Even the more horrible things than humanity like chaos are heavily bolstered and fed by the actions of the imperium. Every problem humanity faces in the 40k universe(except the orks I guess) is of their own doing.
yeah except the ork, the insect that just wanna propage indefinetly like a cancer and the warp ppl that are just under control of an entity that want the end of mankind. who the fuck in that universe is like your war was really mean we gonna make a never ending war in revenge ?
how the fuck u saw 40k and think fsatire of facism ???
how the fuck u saw 40k and think fsatire of facism ???
Because thats how it started? The Imperium is not a good place to live. It is the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable, per every 40k book ever. It is a setting with zero “good” factions.
Yeah so can u imagine any other type of regime for this hellscape universe ? Do u think the settings was build to criticize political regime ??? Wtf
Yes that is exactly what it was done to do. Political satire was a central component to GWs early development of it’s properties(shouts out to the margaret thatcher banner) and it has remained part of it in varying degrees over the decades. You’re not supposed to like the imperium or any faction within 40k, it’s not a setting to be celebrated. It’s meant to be showing things at their absolute worst including the hyper racist empire that represents humanity.
T’au and Leagues of Votann are both doing well and not horrible places to live. The Craftworlds are nice enough.
James Workshop has been pretty fucking direct and consistent that the IoM is horrible and it’s largely humanity in general and Big E specifically to blame.
Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I’m not with buddy. More here to talk about the lore of W.H.
Didn’t humanity try to be peaceful at first, but then the other species used our kindness as a way to take advantage of us?
Again, I’m not getting into the political side of it, just the lore.
Egonallanon@feddit.uk 10 hours ago
Lore wise humanity was more chill in the dark age of technology and earlier there was a lot a lot of back and forth though a lot that lore is deliberately very vague and there certainly might be parts of it I don’t know as it’s been a couple of years since my last 40k lore hyperfixation. For the 10,000 years or so the setting primarily covers humanity is full on murder mode from the moment the emperor elects to reveal himself to humanity, conquer terra and engage in the campaign of galactic conquest.
Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Ah I gotcha. I don’t get a lot of time to read nowadays, but what I have gotten from YouTube channels lately has been cool to learn about.
Humans are definitely not the good guys. But I don’t think anyone really is in that world. Tau maybe and Orks are just Orks. Can’t fault a bird for flying and fish for swimming, won’t hate a Ork for Waaaggghing.
The dark age is def a section I wanna know more about. It’s when A.I turned against right?
Egonallanon@feddit.uk 7 hours ago
Tau very much aren’t good guys with their rigid caste system and the “join us ‘peacefully’ and definetly of your own volition or by force” expansionism. Orks are an unrelenting pack of bastard mushrooms to everyone all the time.
Yeah the war against the men of iron and the eventual outlawing of AI oingst humanity as a result is part of the DAOT and it’s downfall.
CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social 9 hours ago
Less “better” more not waging a literal genocide crusade from the comments made by surviving AIs from the Cybernetic Revolt. Only in that context it was only because AIs don’t have genes.
It’s also hard to tell because it was before the Eldar got got by Slaanesh so there’s a big element of humans simply not having the power to do it even with their higher tech level.
Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Ooh ok. So just to be clear. Slaneesh wasn’t even born yet when the Imperium was trying to conquer the stars? I know they’re the newest of Chaos gods. Just didn’t know if they were before Big E’s galaxy conquest plan or after.