I live in Germany, and over here unless your employer can present a damn good safety critical reason for why you must be sober at work (e.g. operating heavy machinery) it’s not even legal to randomly drug test employees.b
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eurodyne@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
I am 47, and I have never not once been tested for drugs for work.
For most of my jobs, I’m relatively certain that drugs were in fact required.
Devial@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
eurodyne@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
All I know about Germany is that, aside from producing the world‘s most awesome gay porn, and having some extremely bizarre trash disposal laws, it is an outrageously boring country.
But it’s nice to know that, aside from the outrageously restrictive drug laws, they don’t do on the job drug testing.
LordCrom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I have told prosprective employers to fuck off over:
take a drug test
Take a psych test
Unlock my credit for credit checks
Take a full face scan
Register with id.me for the application process
CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Im 46, and I’ve only had one job that didnt do a pre-employment drug test. But most of my jobs have involved machines that can hurt people if not handled right.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m 46 and my line of work is one of the more dangerous jobs involving heavy equipment. There is always a drug test as a pre employment screening, but that’s basically it. Nobody checks again because they’d have to fire half the workforce.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m a school bus driver and drug testing is a DOT mandatory requirement. Some of the districts around me have a reputation for making sure the “random” tests are only give to the drivers they know will pass, so a driver just has to keep clean long enough to pass the initial screening.
chunk6235@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
The only jobs I didn’t get a piss test were all retail/food service. Every professional job I’ve had (tech) has made me drop a UA. I may have had to study to pass the pre-employment test, but thankfully no place I’ve been does randoms.
As my former manager put it, boss man isn’t going to make us drop a UA cuz he knows he’s lose his whole IT department.
CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ok, storytime!
I worked in a little fabrication shop back in 2013 or so. The general manager got a hair up his ass and decided he was going to drug test everyone.
We lost everyone on all three shifts except for me, and my supervisor. My supervisor had been picked up a month prior for possession, and was getting regular drug tests from someone else. Im just boring.
The shop closed down a few months later. They couldn’t get anyone to work there, because people who do that kind of work talk to each other.
chunk6235@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Ah, middle manglement problems, gotta
lovetolerate that shit…
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I was a programmer for 25 years and never had a drug test in that time. No employer ever even contemplated doing it.
eurodyne@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
There are some jobs for which I can understand when it would be very important to ensure the operators of heavy equipment absolutely must be guaranteed to be sober at all times.
Beyond heavy machine operators, this also includes livery drivers, airline pilots, etc.
But those are specialty jobs for which my previous comments are excluded.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Don’t forget Healthcare and insurance. I only know insurance because I have an uncle that has said he’d start micro dosing just to help him sleep but that could result in loss of his license
CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I used to run lasers capable of cutting 19mm steel plate. Have to be sober for that!
eurodyne@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, that old chestnut
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Construction and health care. All required prescreening drug tests, and all my jobs in healthcare had us subject to randoms.
CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In my case it was fabrication shops and machine shops. But exactly like you say.
lyrial@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
I have at 43 and it was the most miserable day at work I’ve had. I worked 2nd shift and walked into a mass screening. I clocked in and was fine. About 20 minutes later, I really had to pass badly, but the bathrooms were being dedicated to pass tests. There was one person completely refusing to take the test. It go bad, like really bad. I eventually had to say “If you don’t either pass test me or let me in the bathroom, I am making a mess right here and now, uncontrollablly.” to my boss’s face. They thankfully saw reason and let me go test. The guy that refused was promptly fired. His refusal was idiotic because there would have been no real repercussions - my boss even had a bad history with coccinellids, and would have just written him up. It was a sad day.
eurodyne@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
How does that Nazi dick taste?
lyrial@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
Yeah, fuck off with that. Do not come at me with that bullshit. You instantly commented. Maybe, just fucking maybe I was and am completely stuck in a horrid capitalist country and was required to do so to eat. You don’t know me or the full situation. How does the fucking fascist authoritarian dick taste from willfully being on a piefed instance that hasn’t forked away from that? Nobody told me I couldn’t piss, I was doing the normal human thing of following expected social norms. I am going to do myself th3 traditional favor I do and not block you, but flag you as someone that not only maybe has it out for anarchism in general, but a potential bot since your comment was instantl, accusatory, and vapid.
eurodyne@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Wow wow. How pathetic.
Marching into the gas chambers, while still defending the Nazis.
I guess some people will never learn…
lyrial@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
Oh fucking look, the idiot/bot that replied within seconds has nothing to say all of a sudden trying to mark an anarchist as a Nazi.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve been tested only twice in my life (I’m nearly 60), once while in college for an engineering internship at IBM and once five years ago when I started driving a school bus. I actually failed the IBM drug test (for marijuana) but they just told me to “clean up my act” and gave me the intership anyway. I’m kind of OK with drug testing school bus drivers only because there’s not really any way of testing whether or not a driver is currently high. On the other hand, they don’t regularly test drivers for alcohol and it’s more common than most parents would want to know for drivers to be drunk.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
a handful of my jobs they knew i was heavily medicated and were offering me more drugs (part time office work in between surgeries)
motoxjake@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Yeah, most restaurants dont test for drugs for a reason.
TheRagingGeek@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Anytime I have worked for fintech I’ve been tested and fully background checked every time, pretty annoying but the trade off is the pay I suppose
eurodyne@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
If I wanna buy blow, I always ask a bartender or a waiter for a hook up.
It’s a rule I refer to as “industry standard”
motoxjake@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Solid advice. Unless it’s Las Vegas and then it’s a coin toss on getting ripped off.