Comment on I'm right and the other vegans are wrong

• bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  “The easiest way is just me fiating this impossible idealistic nonsense in my own head”

  You do you, man.

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  • theolodis@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Well easier than cutting everybody’s consumption by 50% lmao

    You’d first need to capture the current consumption for everyone, so yes, a ban would be way easier to implement

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I agree an authoritarian ban would not be well received, and likely circumvented.

      The 50% cut in consumption could be achieved voluntarily through subsidy, tariffs, education and health arguments.

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      • theolodis@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        If it could work without any ban, it most likely would alrwady. It’s known for decades that the meat industry is a leading factor in climate change.

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• TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Brb, giving up my entire means of livelihood in an environment where I can’t even sell off my assets because they are also banned, all in this job market. Sounds like a good way to quickly block major roadways with tractors, fuck cars should be happy.

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  • theolodis@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I am sure farmers could get free money to compensate, just like they did when trump fucked the soy trade with China. I didn’t hear about tractors on streets when that happened.

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• chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  How is that easy?

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  • theolodis@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You know, just like the prohibition, or banning drugs, you sign a law and because farms are usually big it’s easy to track them down.

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• remon@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I don’t think fighting a civil war qualifies as an “easy way”.

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  • theolodis@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The government has the police and the military, there’s no way a guy with a rifle is doing something against an F15.

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    • remon@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yes and and the police and military will absolutely just enforce this ban without question … they are quite famously vegan.

      I actually retract my statement. We’d only be fighting vegans, so we probably could knock out the civil war in a couple of days.

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• Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Top down approaches are almost never the answer.

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  • theolodis@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Ah good to know, let’s ignore all laws then, abolish religion and live in Anarchy. Wait that’s actually also fine with me.

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• myyass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Um you know that historically lack of food lead to cannibalism right? … It’s still a thing today, everyday.

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  • theolodis@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You’re aware that there wou’d be more food, not less if we banned meat?

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    • myyass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Gimme some of of that listeria, e. coli, salmonella, the parasite thing I had from a salad, etc. There wouldn’t be more food. Diversity is what keeps us alive. You do you, but I don’t think you understand how the world works. And please tell me how rice and beans will keep me alive in -40 degree weather. I guess I should just chug olive oil.

      And yeah, sure it was nice when I had my own garden in Vermont. But now I get to play Russian roulette, except 5/6 chambers have rounds. I hate to shit on you since you have good intentions but it’s a naive take.

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      • theolodis@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You know that the e coli on the salad comes from the excrements of farmed animals that get spread on the fields because otherwise it would be expensive to get it all handled?

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• doingthestuff@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Would you be willing to take up arms for that fight? Because meat eaters would be.

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  • theolodis@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yes, of course I would be ready. Meat eaters would take up arms like they take up arms to fight the Tyrants taking over the country.

    People with firearms have them because they are scared, not because they would fight.

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• AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  An incremental step would be making it more expensive through taxes or regulation. A possible improvement rather than sitting on an impossible ideal

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  • theolodis@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’d take that, but is that going to happen? Doesn’t seem more realistic than a total ban.

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