Joining the US military means killing Iranian schoolgirls. Is “wanting to escape poverty” a valid excuse to murder children?
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apprehensivecrab1@lemmy.world 1 day agoFor many, joining the US military is the only way out of poverty, a path to citizenship, or a way to a higher education. Some others just are victims of propaganda, or just genuinely sadistic, but unfortunately most of the people joining the military are victims of a failed education and social security system designed to bring more troops into the meat grinder.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Grilipper54@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Is surviving a reason for doing something bad?
I’d say yes and anybody that disagrees has probably never been in that situation.
There is a reason the military recruits the poor.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Surviving is when you go work for or McDonalds not kill brown children. Such a pathetic excuse for mass murer.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about
Fluke@feddit.uk 23 hours ago
Spoken like someone who’s never truly known desperation or genuine hunger. ie. One of the bourgeoisie who’d be first against the wall.
whereitsat@lemmy.zip 17 hours ago
there are lots of ways to ‘survive.’
let me ask you question: what’s worse from a moral standpoint: stealing an old ladies purse or killing someone? what about pitching a tent on land that someone else owns? what about parking your RV in a wal-mart parking lot overnight?
some of those things are crimes and you’ll be looked down upon even if you don’t get caught.
so, why do we say ‘thank for your service’ and then turn around and see the thief as less than human?
i’d rather have someone poach on my land than bust into my house and shoot me in the face. i’d think anyone would feel that way.
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 15 hours ago
That whole thank you for your service thing is also distinctly American. No where else does that.
Grilipper54@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
I don’t thank people for their service. I understand that some people needed to to survive. You’re legally allowed to park in wall mart overnight with an RV at a majority of locations as well.
Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 20 hours ago
You either agree that the people your empire has been invading have a right to defend themselves by eliminating your ss troops, or you think that your ss troops deserve to survive and get higher education.
Which is it?flandish@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
the reason is capitalism. but it doesn’t excuse those who voluntarily join.
zeezee@slrpnk.net 23 hours ago
would you say the same for ICE? they also recruit from poor migrant communities because they’re most desperate and the pay and perks are good - would you say they’re justified in joining and terrorising the ones that didn’t?
and while I 100% agree that propaganda and the system failing them is the main reason driving that - we don’t counter the propaganda by normalising the poor-to-terrorist pipeline as “well the system sucks but you gotta do what you gotta do” - there are red lines and if we could collectively resist them - we starve the system from being able to force people into the meat grinder
Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 20 hours ago
Would it be okay, then, for me to rob, torture, and kill your family if it was the only way for me to get higher education (i.e. something that is not necessary to live)?
What about the families these monsters kill that won’t be able to receive higher education on account of being dead or kidnapped?