Erm, source?
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rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Capitalism kills 200 million people every 10 years.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The 420 million figure isn’t a measured death toll caused by capitalism. About 90% comes from deaths associated with hunger and inadequate healthcare, and the site makes the additional causal assumption that those deaths are attributable to capitalism. Show me the counterfactual proving those people would have survived under a non-capitalist system. Especially when considering the billions of dollars capitalist countries give in aid internationally. Also, global child mortality has fallen massively during the same period the site is counting these deaths as capitalism’s toll. The under-five mortality rate fell about 60% from 1990 to 2024, while the site attributes millions of ongoing deaths to capitalism.
joecitizen@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
Uh decreases in child mortality is a result from non-profit, state-driven public health initiatives and mass vaccination campaigns, publicly funded sanitation, and universal health protocols rather than market driven incentives. Credit belongs to public infrastructure, not private market distribution. You can thank socialism for this.
5318008@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Show me the counterfactual proving those people would have survived under a non-capitalist system.
Are you going to apply the same standard to your original claim? How many of the alleged million would have survived under a non-communist system?
DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
About 90% comes from deaths associated with hunger and inadequate healthcare, and the site makes the additional causal assumption that those deaths are attributable to capitalism
Ah the good ol tactic of “these people didn’t die due to covid, but they died while having covid.”
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
About 90% comes from deaths associated with hunger and inadequate healthcare, and the site makes the additional causal assumption that those deaths are attributable to capitalism
Yeah? You want to try applying this standard to your own numbers first.
Batman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Also needs to be normalized by the number of people in each system.
visch@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
You too
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I didnt make the 200 mil meme but I did just finish this book that does a pretty good job laying it out. www.goodreads.com/…/998056.Death_by_Government
SoupBrick@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Yeah, but it’s ok because a few hundred people get to have more money than god.
eurodyne@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Can fairytales have money?
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Considering most of their wealth is speculative anyway, I’d say it’s fair to assume imagined entities can be included on the scoreboard.
Impound4017@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Even if they can’t, wouldn’t that just mean that the category “more money than god” is just larger than you’d think at first?
perpetualflight@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Pretty sure a good chunk of Disney’s budget is allocated to fairytales