Comment on As if the tip actually goes to the dashers.
zyros@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m a dasher. Yes, drivers do get tips, and our livelihoods depend on people tipping. Yes, you should tip, yes, you’re just being cheap if you don’t. Yes, it is bullshit that doordash doesn’t pay us more, yes, tipping culture is bullshit. But you still eat out at your favorite greasy spoon knowing full well the staff depends on tips to pay their rent so you tip them.
If you don’t want to tip, get off your ass and get the food yourself. We’re dying out there and don’t need a hundred 15-mile-0-tip deliveries declined a day dragging down our acceptance rates. Just treat us like fucking humans, ffs. Please. Tip. Your. Drivers.
If I’m not happy I should drive for it myself? If you’re not happy go change your job
The problem are not the customers, it’s the employers.
Also keep that attitude up - people ordering less, driving by themselves because of the expected tips and you end up redundant.
Yeeaaahhh fuck that honestly, its not the responsibility of the customer to pay the employees of a company, that’s your boss/HRs job. Tips should be something paid out to someone AFTER they do a service for you that you are satisfied with, not before. Why tf would I pay someone an extra $5 before they do a service for me? There’s no obligation for them to do a good job, they already have the money. Case in point, I’ve ordered from Door Dash before and tipped like $6 bucks, I got my food like an hour and a half later and it was cold. Fuck that shit.
If you don’t like the way the service works, stop using it
If you don’t like working for tips, get a job that doesn’t rely on tips?
See what I did there?
(Note: I do actually tip fairly well, because I do appreciate the drivers and most of them are just trying earn a living.)
I’ve never used that service and I probably never will but I still have the same opinion as the guy you just replied to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That goes for employees too
This is so hilariously backward. Customers are getting what they want, and so is the company. It’s the drivers with the problem. Why would a customer stop using the service?
No one is holding a gun to your head to be a dasher. If you don’t like it, do something else. This is entitled af.
What’s flawed about it? If you don’t like the deal, don’t be a dasher. No one is forced to deliver food for money. No one is being fooled about how little it pays. Y’all act like it’s some big secret that the gig isn’t great, but that’s common knowledge. If no one wanted the gig and all its drawbacks, then they wouldn’t sign up for it.
That’s fine and I agree for the most part - I delivered food for a few months a decade ago and it was absolutely miserable and I did absolutely rely on tips. I got out because it sucked.
However, you can’t complain and refuse to tip your driver if you decide to use the corrupt service, which I assume, you do?
This is the problem. These services have successfully pitted you against the customer. If you are not happy with the pay, your issue is with the employer, not the customer.
These services do pay drivers and it’s not enough. Instead of paying more, they redirect you to the customer for the rest, and in some cases you just get screwed. But it’s the service screwing you, not the customer.
What I can’t accept is the apps trying to say I should tip 15% on the delivery total before discounts, for a delivery not even done by the restaurant, so it’s not like it’s also shared with the cooks.
I’ll tip, but fuck that bullshit. $50 in a bag is the same as $20 in a bag.
Stop taking jobs that don’t pay a living wage then blaming your customers.
pyre@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s your employer who doesn’t treat you like humans. Stop blaming the customers for it.
Retrograde@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This sentiment is like yelling at a McDonald’s employee simply because you don’t like McDonalds.
If you think Door Dash sucks as a company, just don’t use it then. Using it, then fucking the driver with no tip makes you look like a total prick
Crashumbc@lemmy.world 10 months ago
If you don’t don’t like relying on tips get a different job?
Retrograde@lemmy.world 10 months ago
If you don’t like people relying on tips, pick up your own food?
SCB@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Their employer is treating them like a tipped employee, which is so embedded into society’s fabric that we have a separate tax code for it.
You not liking that is not any different from you liking a given law. You’re free to not participate, but expect there to be consequences, and one of those is for people to assume you’re an asshole.
Pogbom@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m in Canada where the minimum wage is the same for all employees, regardless of tips or not (with one small exception in Quebec, where it’s $10.80 instead of $13.50).
I just looked up the US law and it seems so circular. There’s a smaller minimum for those considered ‘tipped employees’, but the definition of ‘tipped employee’ is one who makes at least $30/month in tips in general.
So you could say it’s incumbent on customers to pity these employees and top up their salaries, but it seems just as reasonable to stop tipping them so they no longer fit that definition and they get the actual minimum wage.
In other words, they only get a smaller minimum wage because they prefer being tipped employees. If they didn’t, they would just refuse the tips.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Welcome to unbridled capitalism!!! It is a complete shit show.
Tipping has been a evil system from the first tip ever. It’s portrayed as a way to “appreciate good service” but in reality, it is about enforcing the power dynamic of rich over poor, and belittling those below you.
SCB@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Servers make vastly more than min wage. I generally had $0 paychecks because taxes were higher than my hourly