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• TIEPilot@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Bang up idea, when have you ever seen the government run something correctly/efficiently?

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  • krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There’s tons of examples if you actually care to look. Trash pickup is an easy example. I’ve lived in places where it was managed by the city and places where it was run by private companies. The city always showed up on time and never raised prices without justification.

    Guess what the private companies did on a regular basis? And if you want to talk about efficiency let’s consider whether or not it would be better to have four different companies running four sets of trucks on four overlapping routes through the city as opposed to one entity handling the whole thing. The only thing efficient about the private companies running things is the way the money is siphoned off to some rich asshole instead of being managed by accountable local officials.

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    • TIEPilot@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If its so efficient why do trash companies exist? I live in a city that has municipal pickup and all my friends that own apartments/restaurants all have private business dumpsters because the city sucks at doing a simple job…

      The government needs to stay in its lane and out of business.

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      • krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If its so efficient why do trash companies exist?

        If private companies are so efficient then why does the government exist?

        Do you see why framing the question that way doesn’t help you address the actual problem? I’m guessing you don’t since you seem unwilling to consider the possibility that private ownership is not the ideal solution to every service problem. I don’t think you need more than a cursory glance at the state of the US to throw that idea out the window but things must seem pretty good to you if you’re still stuck in that mindset.

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  • kestrel7_7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    A lot more frequently than I see private industry run something correctly/efficiently.

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  • RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The police and most three letter agencies, when you understand their purpose is to protect the wealthy.

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    • TIEPilot@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Works for me.

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  • OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    the government

    Who said shit about the government?

    We should seize the means of production. Us.

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    • TIEPilot@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Good luck with that bub.

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  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s not the government who would control the means of production, it’s the workers. In theory they might use a vanguard party to seize it non-violently and then redistribute it, so in that case it may pass through the government’s hands. But that’s not the only way to seize the means of production. When properly done though, it would end up in the hands of the workers, every laborer owning their own tools and equipment so they can work for themselves instead of some faceless corporation.

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  • GenosseFlosse@feddit.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The difference is that the government has no shareholders or incentive to turn a profit, unlike companies. However it can sell luxury goods at a high price, to subside other goods like food or housing from the markup.

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    • TIEPilot@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No share holder, we are all share holder in the US government if you pay taxes, are you daft?

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      • GenosseFlosse@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Oh wow, where are my us government shares?

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