Comment on take their money and arrest those responsible

Tango@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If you can spot me $30,000 I’ll get an electric car today

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  • FinalRemix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    First, I have to get a new range hood, repair my foundation drain, regrade my yard, and earn a spare 30k after that.

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    • VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think I’d get close to $5 if I traded in my current car, if that helps

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      • phar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ll give you $3.50

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  • Tango@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just do what you can, when you can. It’s all any of us can do.

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    • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh, the old “it’s the consumers responsibility” fallacy.

      Nothing will change if it isn’t forced, or if electric cars get cheaper.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My sister has that as a tattoo (or some variation on that wording).

      And yet, it seems to have become an excuse for why she’s allowed to buy a big gas-guzzling SUV, and drive it whenever she wants, wherever she wants, and fly around the world for fun.

      If she’s ever asked, she’s an environmentalist who loves nature. But, she avoids ever having to make tough choices about her own lifestyle because she allows herself the grace to just do what she can do, and not agonize over the rest.

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  • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    30,000? A domestically manufacturered, highway-capable EV is 10,000 USD here in vn and even cheaper over in China.

    Who do you think is responsible for your inability to buy reasonably priced evs?

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      space karen

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    if you can repay it tomorrow i can spot you 30k today

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  • SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Whatcha gonna drive it on? The streets and roads are a major source of CO₂ by themselves.

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    • VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If someone can spot me $300 million, I’ll get functional public transit going in my city instead.

      In the meantime, my options are drive a car, or be unemployed.

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      • SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’d also have to deal with all of the residents who pitch a screaming fit any time anybody suggests maybe possibly removing a parking space. Unfortunately, it’s a whole, self-reinforcing system, not just the fault of a few corporations.

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    • AngryPancake@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’d argue not having to burn your fuel is already a great improvement

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• bort@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hope big oil is paying you well for propagating their “personal carbon-footprint”-narrative.

  What do do you say? They don’t even pay you? … Then why are you doing it?

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  • Tango@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Because I don’t trust anybody who tells me things I wanna hear like “you bear no responsibility; it’s somebody else’s fault”.

    Oil companies couldn’t sell if nobody was buying. The idea that the world can be fixed and I won’t need to sacrifice a thing is a little too good to be true.

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    • bort@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The idea that the world can be fixed and I won’t need to sacrifice a thing is a little too good to be true

      On one hand I don’t think people are saying that. On the other hand, there are some radical views here on Lemmy.

      Sure, maybe others will need to make more changes than me, and I’m certainly not gonna let them off the hook, but I’m not gonna let myself off the hook either, and anyone who tells me I can is selling me something.

      I am 100% with you here.

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• psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well i don’t create the system. Given the chance i would rather not be a part of it.

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• JcbAzPx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “We’re not evil for selling you something that will destroy the environment, you’re evil for being forced to buy it from us!”

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• peteypete420@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ur dum

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• merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “I’m not a monster for choosing to drive a gas-guzzling SUV, it’s the evil oil companies!”

  I’m not pretending these companies are blameless. They certainly lobby to reduce people’s alternatives. They probably break any environmental regulation they can get around, and just pay a fine if caught.

  But, fundamentally, they’re a business. They wouldn’t be pumping oil out of the ground if people weren’t buying it.

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