Unless they're a Palestinian citizen of Israel, there's like a 90+% chance that if they're Israeli, they're a Zionist.
(and "liberal" zionists are still zionists)
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affenlehrer@feddit.org 6 days agoI didn’t know. I just knew she was Israeli. Thanks
fif-t@fedia.io 6 days ago
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 6 days ago
And fully supports their genocide.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 days ago
i think she defends thier current actions. theres another israeli actor, i think frenchie guy was one from the boyz.
affenlehrer@feddit.org 5 days ago
That’s a bummer, I liked both as actors
LordPassionFruit@lemmy.ca 6 days ago
Yeah, she served in the IDF (mandatory service) but continued to speak highly of it
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 days ago
technically mandatory,
many are able to avoid it with national service (2 years of volunteering).
many choose to evade it by pretending to be orthodox for the period of the service, and are hunted by private investigators.
many still just chose to serve their service in a cell because they refuse to enlist.
if someone ends in the IOF, and participate in a holocaust, it’s their choice and they wanted to be there. no one can say “it’s mandatory”. that excuse didn’t worked for nazis, wont work for zionists.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 6 days ago
Shout out to that one Taylor Swift fanpage poster who went to prison over it ✊
Banana@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
The irony being that TSwift would’ve 100% served in the IOF if she was Israeli.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 days ago
funny how israel allows the ultra conservative portion religious group to avoid service, and they are the ones constantly hounding for war.
YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club 5 days ago
A bunch of my friends are Israeli and nobody should be hated for their country of origin. I’m from the US and I don’t think someone should automatically hate me because of our politicians. The people that I know served in the IDF because it was the path of least resistance, and they played in the marching band or did graphic design. You’re gonna say my ex is a bad person because he played the trombone while Netanyahu walked past him? Then I’m a genocidal murderer for having an iPhone.
Gal Gadot is just a beautiful woman and a bad actress who was briefly in a war simulation. You free palestine people just like shouting and grandstanding.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Do you think that we hate Nazis because they were German? Because their country of origin?
We hated Nazis because they were Nazis.
And we hate Nazis even if they are not from Germany.
But we also hate the Germans who were passive and accepted Nazis as if they were business as usual, it didn’e affect them. it affected their neighbours but they did not care
We hate zionists for their genocidal ideology, not because they are from Israel, there are plenty of Israelis who fight Zionism.
We hate Zionists because they are Zionists,
And we hate Zionists even if they are not from Israel
But we also hate the Israelis who are passive and accept Zionism as if it was business as usual, it doesnt affect them, it affects their neighbourss, but they don’t care.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 days ago
Kinda just ignoring the things she has said, aren’t you?
emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
I don’t think anyone hates all Israelis. Those who refuse to collaborate with the IDF should be respected. And there are many incredibly brave Israelis who work as journalists, lawyers, etc. to help the Palestinian people.
Understandable on an individual level, but their silence enables Israel to continue the genocide.
athatet@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
Wrong. Zionists who love Israel are actually incredibly ugly.
ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
I 100% agree with how nobody should be hated for their country of origin.
However, actions does matter. Any participation in the IDF can by some be considered bad. If him playing trombone means someone else had to be the soldier instead of him, then it’s still contribution. Anyways these things are not black and white. My opinion is not made up entirely here, but I am leaning towards it being a contribution to their war efforts, but people aren’t exactly very mature the two years they are in IDF.
However Gal Gadot is not just a “trombone player”. She is a “trombone player” that has the attention of tens of millions of people. So far, not the biggest problem. The issue is using her huge platform to give full support to Israel for years, again and again. Even if criticized and presented with new information she keeps her full support.
If you do not consider it a genocide, then how many Palestinian deaths per Israeli is ok? 10x, 50x or 100x? Currently it is about 50x and at least 100x indirectly. That in itself can in someones eyes be justified, the problem is that it is almost just civilians, and an insane amount of children. That makes it very hard to justify. Denial of food and basic supplies is the same. The amount of journalists being killed is at a level never seen before, also. All these things that are not even remotely normal warfare, it’s almost as if it is something else entirely.
Gal Gadot acts as if your ex held speeches and wrote articles for newspaper giving unyielding support of Israel. Then not weakening his position slightly when seeing what the atrocities are doing to Palestine and its people. Then continuing giving speeches and writing articles in full support.
The difference between the two is the effect. So the difference between the two is huge.