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I 100% agree with how nobody should be hated for their country of origin.

However, actions does matter. Any participation in the IDF can by some be considered bad. If him playing trombone means someone else had to be the soldier instead of him, then it’s still contribution. Anyways these things are not black and white. My opinion is not made up entirely here, but I am leaning towards it being a contribution to their war efforts, but people aren’t exactly very mature the two years they are in IDF.

However Gal Gadot is not just a “trombone player”. She is a “trombone player” that has the attention of tens of millions of people. So far, not the biggest problem. The issue is using her huge platform to give full support to Israel for years, again and again. Even if criticized and presented with new information she keeps her full support.

If you do not consider it a genocide, then how many Palestinian deaths per Israeli is ok? 10x, 50x or 100x? Currently it is about 50x and at least 100x indirectly. That in itself can in someones eyes be justified, the problem is that it is almost just civilians, and an insane amount of children. That makes it very hard to justify. Denial of food and basic supplies is the same. The amount of journalists being killed is at a level never seen before, also. All these things that are not even remotely normal warfare, it’s almost as if it is something else entirely.

Gal Gadot acts as if your ex held speeches and wrote articles for newspaper giving unyielding support of Israel. Then not weakening his position slightly when seeing what the atrocities are doing to Palestine and its people. Then continuing giving speeches and writing articles in full support.

The difference between the two is the effect. So the difference between the two is huge.

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YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I came back from the lake. I don’t accept your argument that we have to count lives in this manner. A lot of the children were combatants and it’s a war that Hamas started and Palestine overwhelmingly supports.

I think Gal Gadot is just fine, she’s just a patriotic citizen of her country. Whether you like her acting is up to you. I don’t think it makes sense to hate Israel simply because they are more successful at warfare. And iit’s really not okay to treat regular Israelis poorly because of their govt. Do you actually think Gal Gadot killed a Palestinian?

AFAIK Israel itself is over 20% Arab. Not seeing the problem here.

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YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I feel bad replying to you because that was very thoughtful but I have to leave in like 5 minutes so I can’t be equally thoughtful until later. Like…it’s a war? They had a ceasefire and literally paraglided into Israel and killed and raped innocent people at a music festival and a lot of people were so drunk on rooting for the browner side that they acted like that was okay? It wasn’t even an active was and that would have been a war crime in any war. I saw the videos of them parading those violated bleeding women around and some of my friends were acting like it was justified because it was an apartheid state, but I don’t see anything justifying it.

Hamas/Palestine are infinitely more cruel, but Israel is seen as wealthier and whiter so they’re always gonna be portrayed as the villian no matter how much they baby them.

I really don’t see it as a genocide, and I have my sources and will come back to this comment later. But yeah if you shelter TERRORISTS under schools and hospitals you can’t whine when innocents get hurt? The perpetual victim shit with Palestine is so played out. If they rooted out Hamas themselves there would be no issue. Bu that random “innocent” 50 something year old woman who died and people cried about was raising and feeding a terrorist, so wasn’t she complicit?

Gotta go paddleboard will return

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