If you’re into these depictions because they’re depicted as children…
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DeadDigger@lemmy.zip 2 weeks agoWell no. Pedophilia is the attraction to real children and lolicon is the attraction to illustrations of child like characters that doesn’t even need to be sexual. The translation is also wrong because in Japanese there exist the loanword pedophilia and it was not used in the original so the translation is also wrong.
Saapas@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Is it because they depict children or because they depict child like features?
By the first, technically adult characters in a child like body (lucky star) wouldn’t count.
By the second, catgirl cosplay counts as bestiality.
Saapas@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
If someone is specifically into child like features and akshually they’re a 9000 year old dragon, yeah they’re a pedo
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
The amazing digital circus might thank part of its popularity to the nostalgia of the kidcore aesthetic featured troughout the circus.
The adult lead character pomni appears as a clown with little features that we would objectively associate with an adult wonen besides possessing the clear psychological maturity and intelligence of an adult.
The features of pomni could be described as short stature, a bright childlike color scheme, and large eyes relative to the face, a physiological trait often associated with infancy in mammals.
Now for science, is it pedophia to wank off to amazing digital circus porn of pomni and does it make a difference wether its a visual drawing or a text based work of fiction.
My point is not to convince you of annythhing just that your argument itself easily falls apart once one has to define “childlike features” into a legal/moral setting.
DeadDigger@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Well no. Pedophilia in a non medical context is not necessarily about features and mostly about power. Most CSA happens because it is an easy power imbalance, not because the perpetrators are attracted to childrean. For example in many countries with good Internet connections and a low socieoeconomic Standing producers of CSAM are often Mothers that need money for food they the selfs are not pedohiliac they have a power imbalance and an economic incentive. At the same time the viewers of these live streams are often not pedohiliac too but want an easy victim for their Powerfantasie. With this popular depiction lolicons are not the same because as they are only attracted to fictional characters will never harm childrean.
Further a medical pedophile is exclusively or primarily attracted to childrean. Most ppl with pedophilia never harm a child btw. Lolicon on the other hand is not a paraphilia so while you are attracted to fictional childlike characters it has not to be exclusive. From a medical standpoint being sexually attracted to a minor alone is not pedophilia as long as you are as much attracted to non minors. Primary or exclusive attraction is a necessary symptom of pedophilia.
Further in Japanese culture being sexual attracted to post puberty women who have a very childlike demeanor is also considered lolicon. As an example the 24 year old pornstar playing a schoolgirl trope in western porn would also be considered lolicon. A pedohile would be someone that rapes children in person or by proxy. If someone does not understand this difference they are part of the problem.
Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
There is a big difference between these too.
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flandish@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
this isn’t some baudrillard level type of simulacra shit, it’s literally people using cartoons as analogs to their real attractions, so yes, they are pedos. much in the same way police are pretending to be heros. they all deserve prison. the former and the latter.
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I’m confused, are you pro- or anti policing? 🤔
flandish@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
lol. anti cop.
PlasmaSnake@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you are attracted to drawings of children but not real children, I would say that this isn’t pedophilia