you claims it to be only model that works, yet it is already collapsing under its own weight in less time than many big empires in history has lasted.
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SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Capitalism is the only economic model that consistently works.
Every time socialism/communism fails everyone is making excuses why but capitalism keeps moving along making people’s lives better.
bountygiver@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
nitroemdash@lemmy.wtf 3 weeks ago
When do you expect US to have a ploletarlian revolution?
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Right after China does.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Some socialist systems succeed until their territory gets seized by colonial interests. The US and GB are both guilty many times over of being the predatory belligerent. Most of our wars in the 20th century were about commercial interests seizing the resources of undeveloped nations, and then forcing their populations to work at meager wages.
In fact, when Lenin started his great communist experiment, the first thing Wilson did was unite rest of the industrialized world to sanction the USSR, so (at the risk of sounding like a tankie) we don’t know how well the Soviet Union would have fared if it was allowed to flourish on its own terms. (I don’t expect it would be a perfect utopia, but it may have been able to stave off the decent into corruption for a while.)
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Those are the excuses I’m talking about.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Outside influence = excuses. Typical neo-liberal thinking.
b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Imagine being so captured by Capitalist Realism you parrot this shit like a broken LLM and actually think it’s your own original thought and not the propaganda that’s been programmed into you.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
My life isn’t better, in fact my quality of life is currently plummeting because of all the debt and inflation. As well when socialism even hints at showing the USA is there with the CIA and its military to beat it the fuck down. Making sure we cannot have functional socialist economic systems.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Dude I am fully and thoroughly committed to hating communism with a deep and heartfelt passion, but capitalism absolutely can be a nightmare if abused, and right now it absolutely fucking is. This level of income inequality is like capitalism laced with meth, rat poison and literal shit.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
You’re just upset that you’re not as smart or hard working as someone like Elon Musk or Trump.
arbitrary_sarcasm@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You know, if you’re trying to satirize the actual SatansMaggotyCumFart, you can’t do it by being so over the top when you say things to his left.
cobalt32@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Every communist state will fail to achieve communism because a state cannot abolish itself, but don’t try to pretend their failures are an indictment of communism as a whole. If we want communism, we have to get there a different way, through actions that are aligned with our goal. Seizing state power will never work.
And sure, maybe capitalism is working fine for you and your loved ones, but if you’d look outside your bubble, a lot of people are suffering. Insisting that capitalism is the only economic system that works is a bit shortsighted I think. Gift economies might be a better way.
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Absolutely. Every time I encounter capitalism in my life, it gets better.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Some socialist systems succeed until their territory gets seized by colonial interests. The US and GB are both guilty many times over of being the predatory belligerent. Most of our wars in the 20th century were about commercial interests seizing the resources of undeveloped nations, and then forcing their populations to work at meager wages.
In fact, when Lenin started his great communist experiment, the first thing Wilson did was unite rest of the industrialized world to sanction the USSR, so (at the risk of sounding like a tankie) we don’t know how well the Soviet Union would have fared if it was allowed to flourish on its own terms. (I don’t expect it would be a perfect utopia, but it may have been able to stave off the decent into corruption for a while.)
arbitrary_sarcasm@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Works for who though?
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Common people.
That’s the reason why in the ‘50’s people could work at a gas station and still afford a house and family.
hayvan@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
That was a “common” experience of a small percentage of people. The rest of the world was heavily exploited.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Things were pretty good here in the states.
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I know this is a troll account, but for the sake of other users reading this thread; capitalism is an inherently arc shaped economy. It does tend work at first, but it’s inherently unsustainable.
Similar to the idea that if you smoke meth, you will get high, but it’s a doomed decision every single time.
h4lf8yte@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Do not forget that stuff also worked out in the past because literally every capitalist country exploited the global south.