Well if you’re going back millions of years to extinct species, sure lol. Glabarisculum definitely may be a landrace, but it’s also still the likely progenitor of all extant Capsicum annuum varieties
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lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 day agoThe “OG pepper” is likely already gone, since the Capsicum genus started branching off 17mya, way before we [humans] colonised the Americas. It was probably some species in the Andes, where you have the biggest clade diversity, including barely domesticated species, like C. chacoense; and wild ones, like C. eximium:
If I had to take a guess chiltepín is probably a landrace, a wild-ish descendant of domesticated C. annuum.
protist@retrofed.com 1 day ago
lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Well if you’re going back millions of years to extinct species, sure
If you don’t, then there’s no “OG pepper”. Multiple species in the genus have been domesticated, cross-bred, spread, and used by funny monke “MOUTH HOT”.
protist@retrofed.com 1 day ago
People are fish. You’re inventing strict definitions that do not exist 😂 And we don’t even know that it’s a landrace for certain, you just said you’re “guessing” this
lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 day ago
People are fish.
No, that is not the case of picking a paraphyletic definition and treating it as a clade (“people are fish”).
I’m pointing out that whatever they find “in the wild” in Mexico and neighbouring countries is already the result of humans spreading this stuff everywhere, after years and more years of funny monke, so no matter what you call “original gangsta” that is not it. Anyone with basic reading comprehension (unlike you) can get it.
You’re inventing strict definitions that do not exist
Yeah, because I totally invented the definition of landrace. Suuure. I also invented the aeroplane. /s
😂
I also invented emojis, “lol” and “lmao” because they’re all great ways to force braindead morons out themselves as such.
Not bothering further with you.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The original pepper was a fish!
protist@retrofed.com 19 hours ago
It’s fish all the way down
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
I don’t want to live on this planet anymore
robocall@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
You seem like an authority in the subject because you used the scientific names instead of the common names, so I’ll take everything you said has fact
lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 hours ago
I’m not authority by all means. Just someone who’s cross-breeding peppers at home, and had to read about this stuff to know if my goal (four custom pepper varieties) is even viable with the varieties I have at hand.
The reason I used species names is because it’s cleaner — plenty species have multiple cultivars, cultivars often have local names, and some of those don’t even have an English name.
Please, don’t. It’s good to check info people mention in social media.
Info on diverging 17mya: scientificamerican.com/…/feel-the-burn-new-world-…
Biggest clade diversity being in the Andes: check this map, focus on Bolivia. The association between clade diversity x geographical origin is a common rule of thumb biologists (and linguists) follow.