Dude, let’em eat vegetables they like. They can venture further without the gatekeeping; otherwise, they’ll say “why bother.”
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RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Peas and carrots are too full of sugar. I mean, they’re better than chips or candy bars by a long shot, but minimizing them or mixing peas and carrots with other less sugary veg is a better idea.
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You do understand all sugar isn’t created equal, yes? And sugar interacts with other components of a given food? Carbs don’t exist in a vacuum. You’re comparing actual whole foods to literal trash.
Please educate yourself and also stop spreading bullshit.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
No, they are actually correct about the effects of starchy vegetables. They have some benefits - like carrots having beta-carotene, but they are about as unhealthy as refined grains are. Maybe slightly worse. Their consumption should be kept on the lower side, and their detriments can be mitigated or even canceled out by being eaten in the same meal as other high fiber whole foods and sources of unsaturated fats.
SirHery@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Dam, better go eating drywall.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
Adding to this, because despite the kneejerk reactions, you’re pretty correct on this one. Carrots and peas are both more on the high starch side, not quite as high fiber as other plant foods. So basically you can think of them as being in the same category as potatoes. Starchy vegetables are actually more strongly associated with unhealthy aging than even refined grains.
And like you said, this isn’t to demonize them. They still have a place in any reasonable diet, it’s just a good idea to be aware of the need for balance with other more beneficial foods like fruit, vegetables, whole grains, sources of unsaturated fats, legumes, and nuts and seeds.
wols@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
The kneejerk reactions are justified IMO. You don’t need to “minimize” peas and carrots to have a healthy diet. Obviously they shouldn’t be all you eat, but that holds for pretty much all foods - balance is key.
There’s several issues with your source.
First, it would have been nice of you to link to the relevant figure so others aren’t forced to comb through the whole thing.
Second, it’s important to point out that this data only shows correlation. The data is interesting for sure, but one should be cautious about demonizing a particular food group based on this alone, considering that the main point of the study was to analyze the health benefits of particular diets rather than food groups.
(note also that fast/fried foods got a positive score, which makes me further apprehensive about drawing quick conclusions from this data)Third, this study focused on health professionals only. I don’t know why it shouldn’t generalize to the general population but it is not a given that it does.
Most importantly, it is not clear (to me at least) that peas and carrots are part of the category “starchy vegetables” according to this study. I couldn’t find any explicit description of the categories, please let me know if there is one in the study or one of its sources.
From what I could find online, peas can be considered starchy vegetables, but carrots usually aren’t. For instance, this site classifies both carrots and some types of peas as non-starchy.
rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Good grief, can we stop shaming people for eating the “wrong types of vegetables” as if that’s even a thing? Just be happy they’re eating any at all.
Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Things that cauliflower people say.
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 1 month ago
is this a racial slur for white people? 😂
Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
No it’s not you Jerusalem artichoke.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 month ago
No. Health obsessed people are mostly obsessed with feeling superior to others based on diet, so they won’t ever stop shaming anyone who eats differently than they do. They are projecting their insecurity with themselves, and they are so insecure eating some peas might as well by drinking 2L of soda per day.