Comment on Shirley, you can't be serious

wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Redjard@reddthat.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  closer to clones than individual consciousnesses
  You know that genetic clones are still individuals with independent brains, right?
  Like twins don’t have to take on the same profession or have the same personality. They’re about as mentally different as any other random person.

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  • wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You should look into the percentage of difference, friend. These are not “twins” by any means.

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    • Rugnjr@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Are you aware of what identical twins are?

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    • Redjard@reddthat.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Then, other than their genetic code, what else is copied between individuals? Is their brain fully encoded in their chromosomes? Does the queen ant go and copy the same brain into all worker ants? Do the worker ants, when pupating, connect to the colonies wifi network and download the current neuronal image for network booting?
      Do they share their fingerprints (for example hair placement) too?

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      • MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Insects are complex and different in how they process information. Ants are smart for insects, but still not fully individuals in the same way we look at mamamilian brains.

        wildlifeinformer.com/do-ants-have-brains/

        The simple answer is thoughts are pheromones. Essentially one ant shares it’s individual experiences with the entire colony and the colony all works for the same goals. So yeah they kinda connect to the colony organic wifi.

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      • Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The argument is that ant colonies are better understood as organisms themselves with the individuals acting more like limbs.

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• morto@piefed.social ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You’re mixing being a clone with being the same individual and sharing a mind, which are completely different things.

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  • wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nah, the former is scientifically sound, and the latter is SciFi. 😝

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    • kevin2107@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      clones exists look at sheep and you

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      • wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Are you high, or did you mix up the order of former/latter?

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• lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is wrong. They get the same DNA father side because male ants are haploid (meaning they have one chromosome of each instead of a pair like diploids) but they get different genes from their mother so they are more closely related than human siblings but no where near your made up number. They are still 25% different

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  • OldChicoAle@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    None of y’all used citations so everyone is wrong!

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    • lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is not how anything works. I’m giving you free information by repeating stuff I learned at school and university. If you want to be sure, look it up. This is far from hidden knowledge. I couldn’t care less if I convince a stranger on the internet.

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      • wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No.

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      • maturelemontree@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You get an F! No passing grade! Citation is needed or you will not pass this class young man!

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  • wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The males are born of the same queen they’ll made with, Doolittle. FFS.

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    • lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Fertilized eggs are female, unfertilized eggs male. That’s why they are haploid. They are not going to mate their mother. Go read a book.

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• solidheron@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So they’re boba Fett

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  • wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Some a boba-sized, even!

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• stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s funny how different hypothetical scenarios already exist in nature.

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  • lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m sorry to inform you that the fact is made up. It’s more like 25% in the case of ants. I wrote more in another comment.

    But there are greenfly who can reproduce sexually or asexually. In the former case, they have two parents – boring. But females can just have daughters with the same genetics. They don’t lie eggs but are live bearing so they get pregnant when they choose to. And there isn’t an age limit. In fact they can be pregnant and their daughter is already pregnant before birth, all genetically identical.

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  • wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So many! Too many to count, one might even say!

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