If we tie it back to love of China and Uyghurs we could go with “If there’s a Uyghur genocide in China, then there’s also a Black genocide in America!”
Or maybe “How do you pose a country should respond to violent separatism and terrorist attacks?”
But then it all just pivots into Ukraine and Russia. First to accuse the other of serving Putin wins. (Or loses?)
Which then provokes a call to separate genocides into ones using bombs and bullets and ones that aren’t.
Which then circles on back to Palestine and Israel.
Have you considered genociding the genociders? Nobody ever really wants to talk about using their methods against them because it’s dark, brutal, and requires dehumanizing people even if we see their actions as inhuman. So we frame the struggle as one of righteousness, remaining noble when they do not, compassionate to the point they exploit it as a weakness. We’re up against callous, selfish, cruel people of all religions, political philosophies, and immutable traits who think one of those things makes them and their tribe superior to those not of the tribe. They infiltrate, corrupt, or bypass whatever social systems we govern ourselves with, sometimes for their personal gain, sometimes for the sake of the state over the rights of the individuals within the state. People seem to accept that fighting back is sometimes the option but want it to be cinematic underdog triumph stories, as if violence as a last resort and with deep regret is more noble than using whatever opportunity one has to eliminate an enemy that has declared themselves an enemy, knows they’re brutal, dispenses death on the daily, and wouldn’t hesitate to destroy someone they identified as an enemy or undesirable.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Damn, I had the popcorn ready an everything…
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Well, you could play it out a bit from there.
If we tie it back to love of China and Uyghurs we could go with “If there’s a Uyghur genocide in China, then there’s also a Black genocide in America!”
Or maybe “How do you pose a country should respond to violent separatism and terrorist attacks?”
But then it all just pivots into Ukraine and Russia. First to accuse the other of serving Putin wins. (Or loses?)
Which then provokes a call to separate genocides into ones using bombs and bullets and ones that aren’t.
Which then circles on back to Palestine and Israel.
For true ouroubos debatelording.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Have you considered genociding the genociders? Nobody ever really wants to talk about using their methods against them because it’s dark, brutal, and requires dehumanizing people even if we see their actions as inhuman. So we frame the struggle as one of righteousness, remaining noble when they do not, compassionate to the point they exploit it as a weakness. We’re up against callous, selfish, cruel people of all religions, political philosophies, and immutable traits who think one of those things makes them and their tribe superior to those not of the tribe. They infiltrate, corrupt, or bypass whatever social systems we govern ourselves with, sometimes for their personal gain, sometimes for the sake of the state over the rights of the individuals within the state. People seem to accept that fighting back is sometimes the option but want it to be cinematic underdog triumph stories, as if violence as a last resort and with deep regret is more noble than using whatever opportunity one has to eliminate an enemy that has declared themselves an enemy, knows they’re brutal, dispenses death on the daily, and wouldn’t hesitate to destroy someone they identified as an enemy or undesirable.
Tonava@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
But what’s the point of fighting against them, if we’re just going to become the same?