And robot should make it so that we have to work less hours and get paid the same as working more hours. We should have an easier life having robots around not a harder life
Comment on It's unacceptable that people like Jeff Bezos exist.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Hear me out, but nobody should become homeless or starve bcz they don’t have a job.
We always frame this in terms of “tHiNk oF aLl tHe jErBs” that will be lost, instead of, why the fuck are we letting these billionaires hoard all the wealth when we already live in a poat scarcity society.
People should not be starving when there’s plenty of food to go around.
mangobanana@discuss.online 4 days ago
Skv@lemmy.world 5 days ago
What is poat and why do we have its scarcity?
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Post-scarcity
Emi@ani.social 5 days ago
“But if nobody has to work who will be making the food?” Is what I usually get when I say something like this and tbh I don’t have an answer for that besides me believing that people naturally want to work and lots of people would enjoy doing lots of the jobs. But I have no clear picture of how such world would work, just being naive that people would do these jobs even if they weren’t forced to do them. Like every basic need is free but to get extra stuff you’d still need to work. Then of course what do you qualify as basic need and how someone could twist it.
TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
I hear you and completely agree. I get that response as well: “nobody would work! Society would collapse!”. I don’t think so… I do think many of the jobs people do just to survive would take a huge hit, like McDonald’s employees or Walmart greeters. But I don’t think any job would completely dissappear, just change. I’ve known people who enjoy working fast food, or greeting… I would still do what I do for a living without pay if I could. We would still grow food, and work. The focus on what stuff would be different though. And yeah, there would be people who don’t work… but that is true now as well!
7101334@lemmy.world 5 days ago
There are people like me who enjoy growing food. If I knew it was benefiting people and not harming the land, I’d be out there as much as I can (…I live in SoCal and have a family history of skin cancer so that might limit it BUT THE WILL IS THERE).
I also enjoy growing cannabis. I already love giving it away for free. I don’t sell it - technically I can’t legally, but in reality no one would care if I did. I prefer giving it away. If I could do that on a huge scale, I would.
Growing or synthesizing psychedelics, and providing free trip sitting services, would make me feel like I was actually fulfilling my life’s calling. I would do that for free for the rest of my life if my basic needs were met, and I would be extremely happy doing so.
There are people like my partner, who enjoy cooking food. She would cook food for people all the time if it made them happier. If they were able to give her something in return, even better, but not necessary. She would also run art classes for free - I know because she already does, but there’s not really the infrastructure to make it consistent and widely promoted.
Instead I’m unemployed with two different STEM degrees because the corporate cannabis industry is shitfuck garbage in a thousand ways, capitalists rigged the permitting processes around me so it’s impossible for me to start my own legal grow even after I saved over 50% of my paycheck for years of work, and I can’t find any other STEM careers that I can be confident don’t serve evil (usually in the form of capitalism) in some capacity. I’m withholding my labor because I do not believe society, as it stands, is working towards anything of value - conversely, as a nature worshipper, I watch it kill divinity every single day.
Another side of it is, being able to get fewer products makes people more self-reliant, which gives “stuff” more value. The wooden chair from IKEA that cost $25 is replaced by a wooden chair hand-carved by you, or your family, or a friend that cost a few days of work. You’ll value it more, it has a story, it’s less disposable and by extension, so are the resources used to make it (at least for people prone to, you know, thought). It is healthy for people to depend on the land on which they live to some extent.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Due to circumstances im working either 1 or 4 hours a day, and the guy im supporting works 8 hours a day. The difference between our attitudes is noticeable. Like spongebob/squidward noticeable.
I just wish it was possible to survive on my wage.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 days ago
People will still make food because they need to eat. Also people love to cook. None of that stops if jobs go away.
Skv@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Say I’m a farmer - I work my nipple hairs off for 14 hours a day to put food on my table, and let’s say I enjoy it since it’s honest work. Why in ALL hell would I start handing my crops out to lazy assholes who’d rather just sit on ass all day and stare at the sky doing nothing?
You see similar in any major city these days - you’ll have itty bitty restaurants and takeouts have giant “help wanted” signs and you’ll have borderline a crowd of lazy assholes loitering outside asking for free food instead of getting that damn job.
TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 5 days ago
A) you almost certainly aren’t a farmer working 14 hours a day. B) you wouldn’t be giving away your crops out to anybody as social programs would be funded with taxes. Like we do with public schools and fire departments and public works, etc.
What an annoying comment.
Worstdriver@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Try paying rent on that “damn job” and you’ll know why no one is taking it.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 days ago
I mean what so you want? You’d be the most popular person around.
You like pies? How about a hot pie whenever you want it.