Yes the rest of the world needs to move around equipment and trailers. And they can do it without obscene trucks like this lol.
What makes America so incompetent that they need a truck like this to do it?
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innermachine@lemmy.world 6 days agoDoes the rest of the world never need to move around equipment or trailers? In America these are every bit as useful as whatever country your from lol. Most of the time people here use them as daily drivers which is obscene but if it’s a business truck a big diesel can be more than necessary. A gas 4 cyl Tacoma is NOT pulling near half what a 2 ton chassy with a diesel V8 can
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 6 days ago
innermachine@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Right so what do they use in the rest of the world to tow a skid steer + equipment or multi car good neck haulers or anything in that 30k+ lb payload? A gas 4 cyl Tacoma isn’t going to cut it. Neither will a V8 or V8 half ton truck. Do they just hire out tractors to do that kind of payload hauling? At work we somewhat regularly have to pull 20+k lbs so we have a big crew cab long box cummings to haul shit like that. Thing is a country mile long but it stays in its parking spot unless it’s getting a trailer hooked to it. If that seems excessive what vehicle do you recommend it gets replaced with? And don’t limit yourself to us mkt I’m genuinely curious !
Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
You’re listing specific examples that literally no one has a problem with. Yes, if you’re moving large equipment you need a large tool to do so. The general public doesn’t do this, like… Ever. The dude in the photo has almost certainly never towed anything with it. These kinds of vehicles serve a purpose, but the vast majority of them are sold to people who will NEVER use it for that purpose, who just take up excess room in lots and on the streets, rolling around with visibility that makes a fucking TANK look like it’s got a clear line of sight.
There’s a whole host of political and cultural reasons that these vehicles are as popular as they are. Almost none of it is actual, practical requirement. No one cares about the worker using the tool to do a job, we’re pissed at the pavement princesses who drive around like they own the place without doing an honest day’s work in their lives. Hope that cleared some of the confusion up.
innermachine@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Fair enough. There isn’t much more frustrating than going to the regional transfer station in my little 5 speed hatch back and throwing out a load of trash every bit as large as the 3/4 ton big boy toy next to me LOL. For what it’s worth at least in my state anything over 10k lbs has a significantly higher annual tax rate and their paying for their stupidity with 6$ a gal diesel rn. I just felt as though some were bashing trucks like these for existing as if there isn’t legitimate use cases for them, although if I had to hazzard a guess maybe 1/3 of units sold actually get used for anything a civic couldn’t fulfil and thsts probably being generous.
FireRetardant@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Anything too big for an SUV typically goes on a transport designed to haul large loads. Goose necks for pick up trucks are mostly a north american thing.
The example you bring up also mentions how that truck is just for work, which isn’t really the problem. The problem is when the boss decides to drive that massive truck everywhere because his ego is so big he thinks hes needs the truck to go anywhere.
innermachine@lemmy.world 6 days ago
No kidding! Do contractors in your country own their own equipment or is that a more common thing in USA? We have equipment rental places in the USA but I feel like any business that uses machines regularly ends up owning them. Feel like it would be weird to own equipment and have no way of transporting it LOL
Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
When normal people need to move stuff, they attach a trailer to their normal-sized car.
Even the car in the foreground is considered large in my country.
innermachine@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Normal people don’t need to haul over 30k lbs on a regular basis. Businesses sometimes do! These vehicles are not supposed to be daily drivers their supposed to be work horses. A 2 ton diesel chassy is made for hauling big loads, and if you don’t need to haul big loads you don’t need one simple as that! Really the only “regular people” I can fathom owning a rig like that are farmers otherwise they really are only useful in construction and other contracting gigs that require lots of equipment hauling to job sites, or in the case of where I work the need to haul multiple vehicles on a gooseneck at a time.
Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
Yes, and businesses have business vehicles with cheaper taxes, which cannot be used privately. Small/solo businesses can be partly exempted from this.
The size of that thing is completely ridiculous and would be a major nuisance/hazard, to drive around in a city
innermachine@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Not to mention a lot of these new trucks of that stature have WORSE visibility than a semi truck! You could run over a group of children in a cross walk and have no idea 😳 it is honestly surprising there’s not more licencing for driving a vehicle larger than x size. Hell any moron with a regular driver’s licence can get behind the wheel of a RV that’s 40 feet long, and one fuck up in a vehicle that weighs that much can cause a LOT of damage.