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Dippy@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• rockerface@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Marxism did begin as a purely scientific study, before Soviets mutated it into an ideology

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  • FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Where did you get that idea? Marx actively built the first international, how is that purely scientific study?

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  • davetortoise@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You are incorrect. Marx felt strongly that his ideas should be used politically to change the state of the world. Aspects Marxism can be applied in a scientific/apolitical way, but this is not what it was initially developed for.

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    • rockerface@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Marx still wouldn’t agree with turning his work into an ideology to be followed. Besides, scientific doesn’t mean apolitical.

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      • davetortoise@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m not sure what you understand by the word “ideology”

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  • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Philosophers have hitherto only interpreted the world in various ways; the point, however, is to change it

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• fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_socialism

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  • Dippy@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why is theory so dense??? I cant even comprehend the Wikipedia summary of this lmao (im not asking for a rephrase).

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    • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you’re from the US, much of the vocabulary is unfamiliar because education on these concepts is intentionally avoided in public schools. I can’t imagine why…

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      • prettybunnys@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Which words are those?

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    • yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sometimes we use super technical precise language to say something that we later realize is fairly simple. It might be obvious in retrospect but take us literally thousands of years to figure out. I have so many examples of that phenomenon.

      Anyway, other times we just need new words for all sorts of new concepts. Even the smartest humans are stupid by default and ordinary language is outstripped by our intellectual ambitions.

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Same reason any philosophy gets up its own ass when it goes on for long enough.

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      • yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        New concepts require new words. New concepts relate to each other in interesting ways. These also have names.

        Alternatively, if I ever wanted to assert something more complicated than the weather I’d need to re-build the entire conceptual framework from scratch using small words and pictures.

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