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im_just_a_gerbil@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
katy perry has a well documented past of SAing ppl, including an 18yr old singer. drunk straight women love to SA queer women and think that they will be flattered by it. i’m not surprised
think that they will be flattered by it. i’m not surprised
In my experience all the gay guys I knew loved getting handsy with me.
They thought they could make go gay presumably with their “incredible” technique.
Didn’t work…but jeebus the amount of having to fend them off. Not to mention the never ending commentary about how I’d be better off gay.
But I don’t consign every gay man to this behaviour in the same way I don’t consign hetros who rape women as if somehow all men are rapists.
Can confirm. I’ve had way more gay men try to be handsy or to try and convince me to fuck around than I’ve seen the other way around.
“straight”
oh yea kissing that 18yo, but the guy was wierd as fuck, and gave off wierd vibes. NOt surpisingly, later on he was caught posessing CHild porn material in 2024.
You experiencing someone as weird isn’t an excuse to dismiss them being sexually assaulted. But I know you’ll continue to anyways.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
Throwing a whole group of people in there with the actions of some idiots is a tiny bit rude.
Signed, a straight man who kind of likes not being treated as a rapist and murderer.
sen@lemmy.zip 13 hours ago
We’ll MAYBE you should have thought of that before being a straight man.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
chill
no one is treating you as a rapist and murderer theyre just saying that what was mentioned (powerful people abusing vulnerable people from vulnerable groups) is mostly a straight people thing
Comrade_Spood@quokk.au 19 hours ago
They are talking about a trend with straight people, not accusing every straight person of being a rapist. Rule of thumb, if someone critiques an identity that you are a part of and the critique doesnt apply to you then its not about you. Coming in and saying this type of shit makes you seem like an asshole who isnt listening to marginalized peoples’ struggles.
Like for example I hear houseless people complain about nurses and doctors a lot because they tend to assume they are dope-seeking. If I was a nurse, I would listen and do my best not to be the kind of person they are talking. I would not tell them “You should stop generalizing, cause I don’t do that.” It feels very invalidating and makes you come off as very self-centered.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
That is a very general statement. I really dislike like such blanket statements. Because what is the difference between that and statements like “black people are dumb”, “Mexicans are drug dealers”, or, yes, “straight men are rapists”?
If someone critiques a whole identity, they should either make sure that it applies to all or at least the overwhelming majority of that identity, or be prepared to be called a bigot and prejudiced.
Comrade_Spood@quokk.au 10 hours ago
Read my reply to walk_blessed and you’ll get the nuance. I explain how its different from white supremacists generalizing black people.
im_just_a_gerbil@thelemmy.club 20 hours ago
what are you talking about about bruh no one said anything about straight men. eye roll
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
Then let me rephrase it, because I forgot it’s the internet and people will try to misunderstand me.
As a member of a non-specified group X, I would hate it if people would precondemn me based on thing Y, which a part of group X does more than the average population.
Based on this hypothetical, yet relatable thought experiment, saying that a group does a bad thing because some people who happen to be in that group do that bad thing more often than other people is at the very least rude.
im_just_a_gerbil@thelemmy.club 19 hours ago
uhhhhh no one misunderstood what you were saying - thank you for bringing the conversation back to what matters, the struggles of the most victimized group of all time. make sure you let every queer voice on the internet know what we should focus on. i really appreciate it thanks so much <3
mika_mika@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I mean, I get it’s inappropriate to be like “what about men”. It’s pretty clear they are talking about blanket judging straight women for Perry’s actions. “Not ALL straight women” - ya see?
In my experience though, they lean towards harassing gay men over queer women. 😅
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 hours ago
frfr it’s crazy, nobody said anything about men but he still had to drop in a “not all men” anyway. these fuckin’ “people”