I mean, they did invade Tibet with ground forces and eventually bomb the shit out of them, kidnapped tons of children and killed their parents. Between 10k in the first three days (the tiny tiny tibet army was very overwhelmed) and their government estimates 1.2million tibetens were killed then and during the 220k Chinese soldier occupation, but the actual number is likely more around 87k to 150k, with the remaining number being imprisoned in slave labor camps and the children kidnapped to grow up as “real Chinese” children. Like the indeginous schools in the US and Canada. Things got so bad that according to the PRC’s own reports, over 70% of rural PRC members defected and fought for the rebels. Skeletons clogged the Yellow River one year apparently. But as typical with all imperialism whether western or eastern, the winners try to explain the deaths away as famine when the soldiers steal all of the crops and shoot out the legs of the people, but they “technically” die of starvation or disease.
Then they came and cut all of their old growth lumber (maybe the real end goal?) with massive deforestation and resource harvesting.
But it is no question that China’s current imperialism is economic for 90% of it. It is also by far the lesser of the evils and much much less violent and physically harmful nowadays after 1970 or so.
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
I guess we don’t count Xinjiang and Tibet because everyone’s already used to them being part of China
stickly@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Imperialism only comes from the imperial region of the US, if it’s from China it’s sparkling liberation
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
The People’s Boot!
nullify3112@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The imperial valley is not in the Empire State… where do they grow imperialism?
drmoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Or any other minority in China
reuters.com/…/china-set-pass-new-ethnic-minority-…
But don’t worry, some dutch guy from mom’s basement living on welfare will tell us that it’s not what it looks and it’s actually good for unified diversity of all people
cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Just read the actual law that Reuters is talking about. It explicitly guarantees minority language rights among a variety of other protections for ethnic minorities. Acting like teaching mandarin is imperialism is absurd. It’s a constructed language designed to be the lingua franca of China. Even most Han Chinese do not learn mandarin as their first language.
drmoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Lmao this is cultural genocide 101. I know because soviet union did the same to my country under the same absurd language like “unity” and “greatness”. Even if you are delusioned here you have to admit these almost satire levels red flags no?
antisoumerde@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
LMAO you’re so left wing you have the same insults as facebook fascists boomer.
My friend is dutch and on welfare, bitch, do you have a problem?
drmoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s a pretty big meme amongst people who actually experience horrors of communism that prominent tankies are as far removed from real communism as possible e.g. mom’s basement in an extremely privileged west europe/us doing nothing but armchair analysis without actually contributing anything else.
marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Why do you think it is bad for the Sami to use the Dutch language? Why is it bad for the Cherokee to use English? Why is it bad for the Zulu to use Afrikaans?
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I guess we don’t count the Confederate States of America because everyone’s already used to them being part of the USA.
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
Me when whataboutism
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Yet another example of how “whataboutism” just means, “trying to apply consistent standards and definitions instead of favoring Western countries.”
antisoumerde@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
The meme is literally “what about China” idiot
cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Do you really think that using an analogy is whataboutism?
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Not every comparison is whataboutism, friend
arrow74@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I mean if we’re reaching like that we should probably talk about all the states that used to be independent now a part of China. Let’s just say that unification wasn’t a peaceful proccess and involved a healthy amount of geneocide.