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gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

If the planet is massive enough, getting to orbit becomes a real challenge because fuel consumption scales roughly exponentially with the mass of a planet (delta-v formula, rocket equation).

This leads to an almost sharp cut-off for the maximum mass that a planet can have so that a rocket which utilizes chemical fuel (e.g. methane+oxygen) can still reach orbit successfully. This maximum mass is roughly 10^26 kg.

For reference: Earth’s mass is around 6*10^24 kg.

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modus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
We really are in the Goldilocks Zone, aren’t we?

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- HopeOfTheGunblade@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Well, yes. In the middle of the goldilocks zone that is based on the environment we are adapted to is where you would expect to find us :p
  
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  - modus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Haha fair point.
    
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  - grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Anthropic principle ftw
    
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- Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Only if there are not sentient life forms on that planet capable of getting off it
  
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grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I propose going to the south pole and just letting go??

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Techlos@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
If anything, it’d be a bias towards spaceplane designs over straight up rockets. As long as the atmospheric density relative to the gravity supports it, offloading some of the acceleration to high atmospheric flight using ram/scramjets can massively reduce the launch vehicle mass (don’t need to carry oxidisers for the flight stage).

That being said, it also would be a bias against high orbits and space exploration in general; safe re-entry is tricky enough on earth.

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Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
What if, and hear me out… Giant trebuchet?

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Windex007@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I suspect that atmosphere composition makes different options more or less viable.

The difficulty/cost getting to orbit probably also would influence where a space elevator lands in terms of developmental priority.

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MissJinx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I did not know that. It’s because it interferes with gravity? I’m dumb sorry

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- UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Not enough gravity, the atmosphere will drift away from the planet with the help of solar winds etc. Too much gravity, and the ammount of fuel you need to leave the plannet weighs more than the rocket the fuel is being used to lift can carry.
  
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  - MissJinx@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    That’s interesting! Thank you!!
    
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