For example i doubt that many people enjoy working at garbage disposable or basically any waste disposal
Ehhh I bet you’d be wrong. Only anecdotal obviously, but at practice and games for the kids, a lot of dads just chat when there isnt much going on. A couple of them work for the local garbage company. One of them commented that he doesnt know how I stay inside and work all day, he really enjoys being outside with the trucks in the morning, then enjoying the afternoon outside with the kids. Another one is a mechanic for them, he always thought the trucks were cool, and he still enjoys working on them (though he will 100% tell you, in great detail, which manufacturers suck for various parts). Haven’t talked much with the last one about work, I think he is the only one just straight up doing it for money though.
And who knows, maybe the guy who likes being outside says that to be positive about his choices in life, but I see him at the park with the kids a lot, I’ve run into him heading out to the trails on his mountain bike, etc, so I believe him that he’s perfectly happy doing it.
Automation for unwanted tasks is great though, I agree, and where automation should be focused.
waddle_dee@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Uncle worked down at city dump. He loved it. He was kind of a garbologist in a way. He was fascinated by all the things folks threw away. Retired there too. Got a job right out of high school and worked until he was 62 and retired. Dude has so many “trash” sculptures. That is to say, sculptures made out of trash. I think you’d be surprised the jobs folks enjoy doing.
FishFace@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Do you think your uncle was in any way representative of the millions of people employed in waste disposal? The city of Birmingham’s bins have gone partially uncollected for over a year due to a dispute over pay. If waste disposal workers were, in general, doing it for the love of it, they’d surely be happy to do it for minimum wage.
Seems more likely your uncle was the odd one out, and most people need to be paid to do stinky work.
Micromot@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
I think that mostly happens because it’s a hard job and because people need money to live. If they didn’t they wouldn’t need more pay
FishFace@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
If it’s so enjoyable, why don’t they do it as a hobby and have a different paying job?
To be clear, I think the answer is obviously that, to most people, it’s not that enjoyable.
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
The pay argument is cause it wasn’t enough to cover necessities. If necessities were 100% covered then there’s no need to argue over pay.
waddle_dee@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Most people need to be paid to do work. Bad argument. I won’t be responding further, if this is how you argue.
FishFace@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
If you agree most people need to be paid to do work, then we have no disagreement on the topic at hand, so there is no need to argue at all.