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Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Before phones that was the only way to install apps though.

  Maybe we should have a term for the inverse, like ‘wallgardening’, or ‘bootlocking’, or ‘corputing’, or ‘inshilling’? 🤔

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  • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Before phones

    But the discussion is specifically about phones..? I’ve never heard anyone use sideloading in a different context

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    • grandma@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Phones are just computers except they fit in your pocket and have a cellular connection. Distinction without a difference

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      • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Phones are a specific type of computer. I wonder if some madlad hates the term “smart phone” so much that they’re out there calling them computers and confusing everyone.

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    • Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, it’s about phones because they changed established practice, but then why use a new word for what was established practice and not the ’new’, phone-specific, practice of limiting app availability?

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      • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sideloading is a more specific term than just “installing”, it’s more about where you got the software, the process of installing it. So people started using a more specific term to distinguish it from other types of installing.

        Why people choose to adopt one word or another, I dunno. We just started calling it sideloading and that’s been the term for as long as I remember (though very early on I didn’t read or write much in English)

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  • ITGuyLevi@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What about before app stores were a thing?

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• hesh@quokk.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The point is that today the term only serves to delegitimize what should be accepted practice (installing whatever software you want on the machine you paid for) by making it sound like some secondary/shady behavior. Thus allowing phone manufacturers to maintain their walled gardens and control over consumers.

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  • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tbf these days it is secondary behaviour. Most people aren’t installing stuff outside of app stores on their phones.

    It would just feel weird changing the words we use because companies started using the same terms too. We had it first!

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