Comment on Nutritional Hexes

• JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What’s difficult is keeping with it.

  My weight has fluctuated from a low of 180lbs to a high of 450lbs throughout my entire adult life.

  I know what to do. I know it’s easy to do it.

  The hard part is knowing that the second I stop counting, it all comes piling back on.

  It’s incredibly discouraging to know that most people can just…live. They eat when they’re hungry. They don’t constantly have a voice in their head telling them to eat when they aren’t. They don’t use sweets for emotional support or stress relief. They can leave food on a plate when they’re full. And they feel full with reasonable portions of food.

  Moreso, they aren’t riddled with anxiety whenever their fat ass is on display out in public doing exercise.

  I had an elderly woman at physical therapy tell me I’m the biggest man she’s ever seen. You know how upsetting that is? Like, no shit, I know I’m fat. And sure she likely has no filter because of dementia but man it still burns.

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  • RebekahWSD@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s miserable. Eat less and move more!

    But the everything is screaming at me to eat. You’re hungry. And the voices from childhood! Don’t waste food! That’s a fucking sin! Don’t throw anything away, it’s better to treat your own body like a trashcan than to actually throw anything away!

    And when you do eat, how do you stop? Because my brain knows there’s more food in the kitchen. It also knows how to make more food. And it’s going to go in there. It’s exhausting to have to say no every second of every day to a brain that’s a toddler.

    Hate it.

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    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Seriously those starving children in africa owe me a little bit of thanks for always finishing my plate. Or something.

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• Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It is complex. There’s a mix of biology & psychology. Some people eat because they’d die if they didn’t. Others, for pleasure. Still others, it’s the only pleasure they experience in a day.

  What do you do when the dopamine hit only occurs when you eat?

  Some people drown anxiety in alcohol or xanax addictions. Others do it with food. The problem there is you can’t detox from food and remove it from your life.

  Dig into some of the research nuggets, in this area, it’s wild stuff.

  In addition there’s work to try to parse out some answers by studying cats. Why is one of your cats a behemoth while the other is a normal weight, both eating the same food from the same bowl?

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  • ickplant@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Totally agree with you. And also the effect of drugs like antipsychotics. Even the skinniest people gain weight and have trouble keeping it off.

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• homoludens@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So the people struggling to lose weight just don’t actually want to lose weight? There are no psychological factors involved at all, no hormones, genetics, environmental factors, education - nothing to figure out?

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  • AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Are you not aware of what “simplest” means?

    Did I say that measuring calories is the end-all, be-all of nutrition and dietary knowledge?

    Don’t put words in my mouth.

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    • Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You did say CICO is the only thing you need.

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      • AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Please point to another mechanism by which weight is lost.

        Proper intake of vitamins, minerals, and essential nutrients is above the scope of what we’re discussing.

        Proper nutrition is absolutely able to be maintained at a caloric level that would facilitate weight loss.

        Stop arguing in bad faith.

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• bizarroland@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Actually, your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate) can change.

  What you see online is based off of your age and your height and your weight, you should burn approximately x number of calories per day.

  But people with thyroid issues and hormone issues and metabolic irregularities can actually burn less or more than the standard BMR listed on the internet.

  To find out your true BMR, you have to go and get tested.

  That being said, what you should do, ideally, is trust what the internet says about it, and then, if you find yourself having problems losing weight, then go and get your BMR tested. There are many sports medicine places that have the testing equipment that will do it for fifty to a hundred dollars, and you can find out that if you deviate from the norm. For instance, I burn about 200 calories less than my BMR says I should.

  So if I’m eating 500 calories under that on my diet, I’m only burning 300 calories a day.

  And if I eat specifically the number of calories my BMR says I should be allowed to eat and maintain my weight, I’m actually putting on 200 calories every day.

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• Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Intermittent fasting is a framework for how to organise that. If you don’t need a framework, good for you.

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