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• justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Aaah, thanks, I had a hard time to figure out what is supposed to be funny here.

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• meekah@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m fairly certain the German ch sound doesn’t exist in English

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  • hikaru755@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Made even worse by the fact that depending on the word it can make two different sounds and neither of them exist in English

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  • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    In some areas people pronounce an initial ch as a k, like kina instead china. But apart from that neither of the two actual ch sounds exists in English.

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    • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Und often enough, ch is pronounced (t)sh, like China, duchess, choose or Apache.

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• nightlily@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Unless you’re a Berliner, but then you have to wonder why your baked goods are talking, and why they insist on being called Pfannkuchen instead.

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• meekah@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Coming back to this thread, because sometimes it actually is pronounced as a k

  e.g. Fuchs, Lachs, wachsen

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  • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, but only in combination with an s, so it’s chs that’s pronounced as ks.

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• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Well it is close, though. A velar fricative versus a velar plosive. Both unvoiced.

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  • jaennaet@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Well it is close, though.

    It’s really not though?

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    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s not a valid comparison at all, and it’s not pedantic to point that out no matter how preemptively you claim that it is.

      Bilapial ≠ lapiodental! It’s not that hard to understand.

      The entire similarity between K and the German Ch is based on them both being velar (and unvoiced). You’re crafting a strawman by focusing on the “fricative and plosive” manner while ignoring that the sound is made at the same place.

      S and T are almost a better comparison because they’re both technically alveolar, but that ignores the fact that S has a dental component. Try making a T sound and then an S sound without moving your teeth. It won’t work.

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      • jaennaet@sopuli.xyz ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        while ignoring that the sound is made at the same place.

        So your argument is that all sounds made in the same place sound the same?

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    • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s like saying F is close to P

      Korean for example doesn’t have an F sound, a lot of loanwords that have an F sound use P instead, France turns into Prangseu and coffee to copy.

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      • jaennaet@sopuli.xyz ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Sure, but does that mean F soudns like P?

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    • InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In Dutch, a T is sometimes pronounced S

      Politie (police) is pronounced polisie for example

      In the word politiek (politics) it remains a T sound

      Democratie -> democrasie

      Etcetera

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      • jaennaet@sopuli.xyz ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Again, does that mean that T sounds like S? Do you often confuse T for S?

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      • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You find that in a lot of european languages, even in English almost everything that ends in -tion is pronounced -shon.

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• Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  and ch doesn’t make a k sound, not even close.

  Go back to school.

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  • meekah@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is about German, not English

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    • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It is about English, because the whole joke is how it sounds in English.

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      • meekah@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        the statement you replied to was about how ch sounds in german though

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      • jaennaet@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        “Ch” sounds like “k” in English?

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  • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I just so happen to have passed by one of my old schools, what should I do next?

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