Comment on Why conservative men repeatedly crash Grindr
bellly@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
We can make fun of conservatives without misogyny
Crazy, i know
there’s a documented MAGA look. it’s creepy and peak uncanny valley. based on MAGA women trying to all look the same with surgeries, treatments and makeup.
Body shaming is bad, but accepting this is the opposite of body positivity. MAGA women are body shamed to look like that. it’s actually sad.
Yea, the Mar-a-Largo face. I think its uncanny, but very evocative of the conservative mindset. I agree that it shouldn’t be normalised, though it doesn’t seem to me like the women in this meme have had those paticular procedures done.
I am disheartened how ubiquitous plastic surgery, especially “small” ones like botox, have become.
yhea, I will agree that body shaming is bad. and it won’t prevent the reasons people get mody dysmorphia. just that those are the most hateful human beings on the planet, and they openly want me removed from the nation and rip my daughters away. so I genuinely do not care for their feelings. the world would be a much better place with them not in it.
I get that. To me, empathy is a ressource. If you put it into every little thing, you’ll eventually run out. I dont think you have to feel sorry for them. Understanding why theyre so fucked up and hateful can put things into perspective, but it doesn’t excuse their actions.
Big hugs to you and your daughters 🫂
Yeah, some of these comments are super not it.
Basically hating republicans for being secretly gay and you feel the need to make this meme about that poor downtrodden class of woman? How are you feeling knowing your going to get drafted and die in the desert? Oh your not going to?
I didnt make this about women, the meme did. And I dont hate republicans for being gay or using grindr, I hate them for being hypocrites about it. Im not sure why you decided to bring up the draft, but if it helps you feel like women are actually the privileged ones, more power to you ig
the joke that conservatives are gay do not make fun of their sexuality. but of their hypocrisy.
It’s the same with couchfucker’s eyeliner. I love eyeliner on men (I have yet to see one who didn’t make me go “I’m probably not entirely straight”), but in my perception, it definitely seems like a queercoded thing that the bigots would hate other men for. It’s the hypocrisy of whining about “weak” men while wearing visible makeup.
(And I do think it looks good on him too, just wish he’d use that mouth for better purposes than spewing hate and toxic bullshit)
I can’t tell if the meme is saying they are ugly on the outside or on the inside (for ogling Trump).
But what about the people with strongly felt but incoherent world-views, like the ones who voted for Sanders before voting for Trump? They need memes too!
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 day ago
We’re making fun of conservatives being hypocrites and idiots. Like, how it’s not racist to make fun of MAGA immigrants voting for Trump and then being deported.
bellly@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Making fun of them based on the appearance of their wives/the women in this picture
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Look, I dont like them. I am not defending them. But reducing them to their looks just because theyre pieces of shit and implying they’re turning men gay. I think it’s shitty, because it doesnt hurt only them.
Do make fun of them. Make fun of their garbage opinions, make fun of their terrible choices (like those awful pearl necklaces lol)
Apytele@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Loving the diagram. Keep up the good educational work.
bellly@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Thanks lol :D I dont usually like risking getting into an argument, but ive unfortunately seen this sort of rhetoric too often :(
zeejoo@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
So is a woman insulting a man by saying he’s ugly also sexist? I’m struggling to see how it’s misogyny, honestly. Like I’m not trying to fight or anything, I just don’t get how insulting physical appearance can be misogynistic when men can be ugly too. It doesn’t seem to be attacking them because they’re women, but because their appearance seems to reflect their souls. Ugly. What am I missing?
bellly@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Fracture has already made some very good points.
But yes, it can be sexist. If the woman’s insults specifically target his worth as a man.
The meme is attacking their appearance, and only their appearance, because they are women. I dont really believe in this “looks reflect the soul” stuff. Some people are the absolute sweetest, yet dont meet societal beauty standards. Some people are shit, yet are considered attractive.
I dont know if you’ve read some comments in this thread, but there’s multiple calling them men. Since they aren’t beautiful, they have their womanhood stripped away from them.
They aren’t beautiful, so they aren’t women. Because to be a woman is to be beautiful.
I dont know how much more obvious beauty being tied to a woman’s worth as a woman can get.
fracture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
yea if it’s implying that men are only worth being with because of their looks, it’s sexist, yea. it’s not as sexist because there’s not a societally ingrained idea that a man’s core worth is in his looks. so it’s not like it’s equivalent. but it’s almost like there are different prejudices to different genders
or have you not heard enough people talk about women like they’re worthless because of a perceived lack of attractiveness
AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
“Ugly” as an insult does more damage even it’s aimed at a person who was taught their only value in the whole world was how cute they look, regardless of gender. It just happens that the majority of people who were taught that from birth were women.
Nobody does beauty and the beast with an ugly chick and a cute guy without explicitly trying to undermine the ideal of beauty as intrinsically the sole function of a woman. Men get to be primarily funny, sweet, handy, clever, etc, with handsome as a potential secondary add-on; women generally need to be beautiful, with any other characteristics being the secondary add-on.
And we’re not taking about things you can choose, like hygiene and smoking status. Just looks. A woman who’s kind but ugly always turns into a beautiful swan at the end of the male fantasy story.
If you call someone an inbred thickhead it hits about the same. If you call someone a slimey booger it hits about the same. If you call someone a useless empty ghoul it hits about the same. But you gotta know visual insults like ugly have broader social context.
And to be clear. A HUGE amount of this problem is intensified and maintained by the billion dollar beauty industry, which LOVES insecurity. It’s working hard to monetize men too! But it’s still a work in progress there.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
But are you?
Who’s the butt of the joke here?
“Conservative women are so ugly their husbands cheat on them with guys” - that’s the joke. That’s the whole joke.
zeejoo@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
The whole conservative movement is the butt of the joke. They’re all in shallow marriages, wear hideous fake costumes, and hate each other. The whole thing is ugly and shallow. The men wear the same clown costume and it’s just as ugly. Spray tans and hair gel anyone?
opokolo@futurology.today 1 day ago
Do you want to get banned from Blahaj instances? This is how you get instance banned from there.
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SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
It’d be cool if that,pic showed evidence of your claim instead of some apparently unrelated bans.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
That all looks pretty bannable shitty behavior to me.
TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 1 day ago
I’m making fun of them because they look like the baddies from Terrahawks.