Comment on When DinoCon is doing more than the US Gov

• PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hey, I know you raped and tortured children and face zero consequences about it, but do you mind if I come over to your house and play in the backyard?

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  • Phineaz@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Pardon, I know I worded it poorly, but what I meant with the Russia example is that the damage done to society is relatively minor by visiting the country or island of a criminal (though not null), while the gain for science could be huge. Somewhat similar to how journalists travel to war zones or occupied territories and comply with local authority such as the Taliban to report on important issues or abuse. They engage with a regime, but for an important reason.

    I don’t mind being wrong, I would like to understand the reasoning seemingly most people share in this case.

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  • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I don’t think they buried the corpses. I could be wrong though.

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    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      How much you wanna bet.

      We already have testimony of them eating pieces of children, and Trump having the newborn child of someone he raped killed and thrown into Lake Michigan.

      So the thought of bodies buried on the island isn’t beyond the realm of possibility.

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• SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You can’t really be this obtuse, can you?

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  • Phineaz@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think I am. Isn’t the advancement of science more important than the shunning of criminals?

    I did word it poorly, but what I meant with the Russia example is that the damage done to society is relatively minor by visiting the country or island of a criminal (though not null), while the gain for science could be huge. Somewhat similar to how journalists travel to war zones or occupied territories and comply with local authority such as the Taliban to report on important issues or abuse. They engage with a regime, but for an important reason.

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    • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      This is the question of ethics vs pragmatism. I do not denounce the discussion, nor do I discourage you from considering the pitfalls of choosing. Also, right now, timing and politics affect everything, and so also must be considered.

      One of the cool things about most sciences is that it can wait. Society is delicate, too, and people’s lives are REAL.

      Another thing to consider is that not all currency is monetary, and that by not condemning these monsters, there are many situations where you effectively do support them and their actions, and that is what the convention is pointing out.

      Goons may not be the heads or decision makers, but they are, at best, malevolent negligence, and are often the active forces executing the very will and accumulating more power and attention and importance of the heads.

      Maybe, use your science for good, instead? And if you can’t figure that out… There’s no nice way to say this… but, you probably need to work on your (weak) moral compass.

      And if you do decide on your way, know that you have also, then, accepted all consequences of your actions.

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