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• fartsparkles@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  mm/dd/yy is a crime akin to min:sec:hour

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  • pogodem0n@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is min:sec:hour? I feel incredibly fortunate to have never interacted with it.

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    • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think I heard the whoosh.

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  • Starski@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Its just how we say dates, probably came from how we often verbally say dates, like “oh hey it’s February 18th, 2026”

    Don’t act like your countries don’t have weird specific things either.

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• arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It makes sense with spoken English. You say March 3rd not 3rd March.

  I get the increased efficiency of ddmmyy in a number based format, but it’s not hard to see how it evolved the other way from the language

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  • accideath@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But why do US-Americans say March 3rd? The British don’t. They prefer 3rd of March. And the USA loves their 4th of july…

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    • arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You are right we do still say 4th of July, but usually we tend to just prefer a different format when talking about everyday things. I’m going to visit on July 15th, I have a appointment May 12th, etc. This is much more natural in American English. Saying the “12th of May” just sounds overly formal. Which is fine for a holiday, but not everyday speech.

      So I guess the question is when did this shift between American and British English occur in relation to the creation of are dating formats.

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      • WalleyeWarrior@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I assume, like most things English, Americans kept the language more or less the same while the Brits shifted how they use the language. The European languages that are spoken in the Americas haven’t changed much since colonization while the Europeans have been changing their languages drastically in the past 4 centuries

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  • SorteKanin@feddit.dk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yea makes total sense - so you’d go for the logical yyyy-mm-dd format then, to fit with how you speak the date? Right? 😅

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    • arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve never met an American English speaker that says today is 2026 March 3rd. They would say today is March 3rd 2026. If the year is included at all, usually it isn’t and is understood.

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  • darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You say March 3rd not 3rd March.

    If you are Yoda.

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• sorghum@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve been using yyyymmdd and was appalled when I found out the ones appaled by the American method uses ddmmyyyy. It doesn’t even sort chronologicaly in alpha numeric ordering. Just why???

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  • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s worse, the American standard is mm/dd/yyyy.

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    • whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I go by yyyy/dd-mm:ww because I’m special

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  • accideath@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When naming files that need to be alphanumerically sorted, yyyymmdd it’s absolutely what anyone I know will use. But in writing or language, mmddyyyy is the way to go. You start with the most gradual denominator, since it’s the most important and you sometimes skip the larger ones because they can be evident

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You start with the most gradual denominator

      So, the year. YYYY-MM-dd.

      and you sometimes skip the larger ones because they can be evident

      So, skip the month: dd-MM-YYYY.

      There’s no scenario in which MM-dd-YYYY makes more sense. Unless you’re expecting to communicate with someone with heavy brain damage who cannot retain information for 0.2 seconds, I guess?

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      • tomenzgg@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Unless you’re expecting to communicate with someone with heavy brain damage who cannot retain information for 0.2 seconds, I guess?

        I mean, that’s not an argument for a better system, though; if you’re saying, “Yeah; you won’t be able to contextualize this info. yet until the next bit of info. in 0.2 seconds,” a person can certainly do that but it’s still working-around the inefficiency by retaining the day – which means nothing in any context which requires knowing the month – until you find out which month the day in question is in 0.2 seconds later.

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    • sorghum@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’d much rather have consistency. If yyyymmdd is the best solution for file names, it’s the best across the board.

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      • accideath@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        How do you say it though? „It’s the 2026 March 12“?

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  • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh boy, never look up big / little endian in computers

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    • darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Both big and little endian make some logical sense, unlike the US date format which instead is like the middle endian (in)famously used by the PDP-11.

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    • sorghum@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, I seem to remember that architecture code is done little endian, and the network stack is big endian. Then there is bi-endian, which I have no clue how that works.

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  • urandom@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They don’t use ddmmyyyy, but mmddyyyy

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• certified_expert@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  USians. The rest of America uses metric and normal dates

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  • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fair point.

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