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MutantTailThing@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Just America’s stupid date format.

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  • fartsparkles@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    mm/dd/yy is a crime akin to min:sec:hour

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    • pogodem0n@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There is min:sec:hour? I feel incredibly fortunate to have never interacted with it.

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      • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think I heard the whoosh.

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  • arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It makes sense with spoken English. You say March 3rd not 3rd March.

    I get the increased efficiency of ddmmyy in a number based format, but it’s not hard to see how it evolved the other way from the language

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    • accideath@feddit.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But why do US-Americans say March 3rd? The British don’t. They prefer 3rd of March. And the USA loves their 4th of july…

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      • arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You are right we do still say 4th of July, but usually we tend to just prefer a different format when talking about everyday things. I’m going to visit on July 15th, I have a appointment May 12th, etc. This is much more natural in American English. Saying the “12th of May” just sounds overly formal. Which is fine for a holiday, but not everyday speech.

        So I guess the question is when did this shift between American and British English occur in relation to the creation of are dating formats.

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    • SorteKanin@feddit.dk ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yea makes total sense - so you’d go for the logical yyyy-mm-dd format then, to fit with how you speak the date? Right? 😅

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      • arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’ve never met an American English speaker that says today is 2026 March 3rd. They would say today is March 3rd 2026. If the year is included at all, usually it isn’t and is understood.

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    • darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You say March 3rd not 3rd March.

      If you are Yoda.

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  • certified_expert@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    USians. The rest of America uses metric and normal dates

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    • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Fair point.

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  • sorghum@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve been using yyyymmdd and was appalled when I found out the ones appaled by the American method uses ddmmyyyy. It doesn’t even sort chronologicaly in alpha numeric ordering. Just why???

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    • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s worse, the American standard is mm/dd/yyyy.

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      • whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I go by yyyy/dd-mm:ww because I’m special

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    • accideath@feddit.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      When naming files that need to be alphanumerically sorted, yyyymmdd it’s absolutely what anyone I know will use. But in writing or language, mmddyyyy is the way to go. You start with the most gradual denominator, since it’s the most important and you sometimes skip the larger ones because they can be evident

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      • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You start with the most gradual denominator

        So, the year. YYYY-MM-dd.

        and you sometimes skip the larger ones because they can be evident

        So, skip the month: dd-MM-YYYY.

        There’s no scenario in which MM-dd-YYYY makes more sense. Unless you’re expecting to communicate with someone with heavy brain damage who cannot retain information for 0.2 seconds, I guess?

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      • sorghum@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’d much rather have consistency. If yyyymmdd is the best solution for file names, it’s the best across the board.

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    • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh boy, never look up big / little endian in computers

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      • darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Both big and little endian make some logical sense, unlike the US date format which instead is like the middle endian (in)famously used by the PDP-11.

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      • sorghum@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, I seem to remember that architecture code is done little endian, and the network stack is big endian. Then there is bi-endian, which I have no clue how that works.

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    • urandom@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They don’t use ddmmyyyy, but mmddyyyy

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