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Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Only if you’re not familiar with the act of producing what the AI is trying to emulate the production of.

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, just try to get the average person to write an email that’s legible, concise and to the point.

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    • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Any literate person can do that? Despite the public education systems best efforts to train us all in such a manner as to overly to pad everything out with an excessive quantity of superfluous filler words, many of which add nothing to the information communicated and may even continue long after the point is made.

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      • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I have terrible news for you; people are not generally literate then.

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    • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you’ve ever read an AI email, they aren’t capable of that either. It’s a meme at this point that people use AI to write an email, which becomes far too long, and the reader uses AI to make it shorter. AI does not do concise and to the point.

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• underisk@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  if the majority of people were incapable of meeting the standard of AI, then AI wouldn’t have enough data to train on to be better than the majority.

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Most people can’t do that either.

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    • underisk@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      AI doesn’t produce data suitable for training AI. It’s a huge problem when AI generated slop makes its way into the training set because it generally degrades the quality of the model. Like a photocopy of a photocopy.

      So where is all the data its trained on to surpass most people come from? Do you think they’re curating what they feed it based on IQ scores or something? Verifying accuracy, competency, etc? Or are you aware they just turn on the reddit/stackoverflow/github/etc. scrapers and start pumping them full of unfiltered 100% pure grade A internet bullshit?

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      • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I would assume they rank the stuff by vote-count.

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      • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s, I’m aware of that. But you don’t seem to be aware of the fact that most cultural output (and yes, that includes Reddit shitposts) is produced by a small minority of people. Most people never contribute anything. So however shit the AI slop may be (which I’m not in any way denying), it’s still better than what the majority of people can manage. Just look at the percentage of people that are functionally illiterate.

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    • thebestaquaman@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s exactly what people have done for millennia though. It’s literally the reason you have heat in the winter and aren’t living in a cave.

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• JcbAzPx@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  A person without training is infinitely better than an AI without training data.

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A person without training data world be a blathering idiot. Any word you’ve ever heard, anything you’ve ever seen, smelled or otherwise perceived is data that was used to train the neural network in your head. And that’s not counting the billions of years it took to hardwire the hardwired bits.

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    • thebestaquaman@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A human with no experience in the field is liable to recognise that fact and start asking questions, showing doubt and learning. That’s infinitely better than spewing incorrect bullshit.

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• howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That majority of people that are worse than AI slop are also not producing anything, so we’re not flooded with human slop. And when they do, we’re supportive because you need to practice producing bad stuff before you can start producing good stuff.

  If humans produced slop at the same rate as AI, I guarantee you that everyone will be complaining about it just the same.

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• mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  yeah but I don’t hire those people

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• architectonas@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Your concept of human being is questionable.

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What do you mean? Are you saying stupid people aren’t real human beings?

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• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m seriously questioning what you consider good, then. That’s the reason people call it “slop”. It’s not good.

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