Those in control of the USA are internationalists, too.
They don’t care who “wins”, they profit off of the war itself.
They love tankies
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sommerset@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
No no. As a tankie - I support you. Fuck ice. Tankies are internationaliststs, not one country above all ists.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
They don’t care who “wins”, they profit off of the war itself (and the rebuild for that matter).
Then why would they love tankies, some of the only people who consistently oppose them building and using tanks?
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Tankies are “authoritarian communists”, they are not pro peace in any way, they love tanks.
(standard definition, not familiar with the tankies that you describe)
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Bedtimes are authoritarian, your parents are dictators
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Really? Because I’m always calling for staying out of conflicts and dramatically reducing the military budget and people are constantly calling me a tankie because of those stances.
See, if you don’t want war, it means you support the other side, and however bad “our” side is, the other side is always worse and more aggressive (the media says so, after all) and that means that anyone who’s pro-peace is actually pro-war.
So it was when I said we shouldn’t invade Iraq and Afghanistan, it meant that I was “a terrorist sympathizer” and “pro-Al Qaida,” and when I say we should stay out of Palestine, people say I’m “pro-Hamas” and when I say we should stay out of Ukraine people say I’m “pro-Russia” and a “tankie.” Consistently advocating against the use of tanks is essentially the defining characteristic of a “tankie.”
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
can’t have war if everyone surrenders too soon.
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Exactly.
There’s only one war worth fighting and that’s the class war. Everything else is just throwing lives away for nothing.
Aljernon@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
They don’t care who “wins”, they profit off of the war itself
People kept telling me that the Taliban won the war in Afghanistan but I kept telling them the US Military Industrial complex won.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I agree with you! And as we speak, they are selling weapons to the Taliban, and selling weapons to whoever is fighting Taliban at the moment.
After there’s nothing left but smoking rubble, the IMF (controlled by the same concerns) will give the winner a “loan.” The winner won’t be able to pay off those loans, so what will they do? Provide them with more loans to cover those loans. The interest is all profit, and the “loan” is never actual printed money in circulation and is “virtual money”, so it costs them nothing. They collect all of that interest with no cost to themselves.
I’m simplifying, it’s actually much worse than I describe. The more you investigate it, the worse it gets…
bbboi@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
not one country above all ists.
except China*
Aljernon@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Tankies traditionally supported the USSR above all other Warsaw pact countries.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
anti-whataboutism
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This dude thinks Ukraine “was asking for it”
sommerset@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
Yes they 100 percent deserve what is happening.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Whatever your beliefs are, we should all agree that nobody deserves to suffer. Even people who have done terrible things, I wish for them to be swiftly and mercifully removed from power or brought to justice with minimal suffering.
Most people in Ukraine are just powerless nobodies going about their lives. They don’t deserve to be subjected to a war. They have no real choice in how that war is waged, or if it is at all.
If anyone deserves comeuppance, it’s the ruling class who actually choose to let these events play out.
Rhoeri@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
You’re disgraceful.
sommerset@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
He should have kept Ukraine neutral and took a deal. But nooo, had to fucking be a Napoleon - moron wasted so many Ukrainian lives
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Who? This isn’t happening to the fascists in control of Ukraine, most of the randos who got conscripted by force and are now getting got by drones and missiles while trying to hide in a swamp are just normal ass people who didn’t ask for this.